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  • Wishing Non Muslims On Their Celebration

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on August 22, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    Some people say doing this act is akin to saying ‘have fun doing shirk with Allah’ and therefore it is haraam to wish eg happy Diwali. I have seen Ghamidi sahabs video about this topic. Is the interpretation of these people correct?

    Umer replied 3 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Wishing Non Muslims On Their Celebration

    Umer updated 3 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 20 Replies
  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor August 23, 2020 at 12:15 am

    There is an argument that it is as if saying happy lying happy killing or enjoy your bacon

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor August 23, 2020 at 12:23 am

    Because the argument that seems to be made is for the sake of socialism you should do this- but doesn’t it maybe cross over into sending mixed messages about shirk?

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor August 23, 2020 at 12:38 am

    Me wishing them happiness on their festival will lead to them strengthening their beliefs in polytheism and perhaps maybe legitimises it for them from even our view. Principles should not be sacrificed for courtesy

  • Sameer Bhagwat

    Contributor August 23, 2020 at 2:42 am

    Is there any example of Prophet or Sahabas wishing the Christians on Christmas ?

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 24, 2020 at 6:08 am

      I may be wrong but I don’t think they celebrated Christmas in the modern sense

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 24, 2020 at 6:08 am

      Anyway there weren’t many Christians in medina

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 24, 2020 at 6:37 am

      There might be some Muslims who may have had Christians and Jews as their wives (before Prophet ordered to throw out Jews/Christians from their homes in Arabia) and they must be observing the Christmas day or any Jewish festival.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 24, 2020 at 7:58 am

      I believe Christmas is from a pagan festival started much later

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 24, 2020 at 8:45 am

      Christmas in some form was celebrated in the 4th century as well..

  • Sameer Bhagwat

    Contributor August 24, 2020 at 4:36 am

    Also, is there any example where wishing other people on their religious festivals is explicitly made haraam by Allah ?

  • Umer

    Moderator August 24, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Please see this:

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    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 2:21 am

      So it is correct- Hindu festivals like Diwali involve shirk so we shouldn’t congratulate them

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 3:23 am

      Is it haraam to wish them ? If it is, how can donating for temples be not haraam ?

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 3:50 am

      My view is both are not permitted

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 4:31 am

      Are you saying donating for temples is haraam ? Which verse you used to derive this ruling from Allah ?

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 5:15 am

      It is like saying if you open up a brothel it is not haraam to earn money from it. Fitrah and common sense tells us it’s wrong.

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 7:24 am

      Donating for temple is same or worse in sinful act as opening the brothel ?

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 4:42 pm

      I was going to answer. But then I remembered I’m not God

    • Sameer Bhagwat

      Contributor August 25, 2020 at 10:10 pm

      Does Ghamidi saab think that donating money for temple is haraam ?

  • Umer

    Moderator August 26, 2020 at 12:02 pm

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