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  • Definition Of Shirk

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on September 3, 2020 at 7:20 am

    Ghamidi sahab said the following

    Believing any creation is God

    Believing God is created

    Believing there is a creation that helps God.

    Is there any religion that practises this?

    ودود replied 3 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Definition Of Shirk

    ودود updated 3 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 3, 2020 at 10:25 am

    Lots of belief systems consider the entire creation to be God. This is a common belief in Tassawuf, Hinduism, Mysticism, and Kabalah, to name a few. Also lots of atheists believe that God is a created concept. Similarly, in many traditions, e.g. some forms of Hinduism it is believed that God has helpers who run things on their own.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 3, 2020 at 11:34 am

      What is the difference between the concept of God’s helpers in Hinduism and angels in Islam?

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator September 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm

      In short, we do not believe that angels act on their own. For detailed discussion on belief in angels, please see:

      Discussion 22381

  • ودود

    Member September 4, 2020 at 7:09 am

    Whether God has helpers or not and to what extend God has given them free will is nothing to do with the concept of shirk.

    Shirk is something like you get salary from your employer but you work for someone else.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 4, 2020 at 8:07 am

      I think Faisal bhai meant that believing that the one true God does not have full control constitutes shirk as well

  • ودود

    Member September 4, 2020 at 9:24 am

    Don’t think Hindus believe that the helpers of God have power to go against God’s will. If that’s what they believe then i agree it’s a form of shirk.

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