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  • Is بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم A Part Of The Fatiha?

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on September 9, 2020 at 10:19 am

    Is the beginning بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم a part of any surah or just a tradition? Is the fact that it is not written for surah tawbah a divine choice or one of humans?

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 3 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Is بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم A Part Of The Fatiha?

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad updated 3 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 11 Replies
  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 11:29 am

    To Ghamidi Sahib, Tasmiyah is not the part of Surah Fatiha. It is here as it is in the beginning of every surah. The reason behind absence of Tasmiya before Surah Tawbah is explained by Ghamidi Sahib in his annotation Albayan that the Surah starts with an air of wrath and it was not befitting to mention Tasmiya which is a declaration of mercy.

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor September 9, 2020 at 11:37 am

    So the humans saw it not befitting to add the Basmalah. It is just a tradition

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 11:41 am

    No human could add a word to it. it was transmitted as it is without Bismillah in the beginning of Surah Tawbah.

    (In my previous response, “The sruah starts..” means Surah Tawbah. )

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor September 9, 2020 at 11:43 am

    The Basmalah is either a part of the Quran or not. If it is part of the fatiha or any other surah then it is part of the Quran. If it is not part of the fatiha it any other surah then it is not part of the Quran. If it was revealed with بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم then it must be part of the Quran surely?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 11:49 am

    یہ آیت سورۃ توبہ کے سوا قرآن مجید کی ہر سورہ کے شروع میں بالکل اُسی طرح آئی ہے، جس طرح یہاں ہے۔ لہٰذا یہ قرآن کی ایک آیت تو یقینا ہے اور اِس کی سورتوں کے شروع میں اِسی طرح نازل ہوئی اور اللہ تعالیٰ کے حکم سے لکھی گئی ہے،لیکن اپنے اِس محل میں سورہ ئفاتحہ سمیت کسی سورہ کی بھی آیت نہیں ہے،بلکہ ہر جگہ سورہ سے الگ اپنی ایک مستقل حیثیت رکھتی ہے۔

    البیان

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor September 9, 2020 at 11:50 am

    Thanks sir

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 11:50 am

    This verse occurs at the start of every surah except Surah al-Tawbahin the same manner as it occurs here. Consequently, though it is certainly a verse of the Qur’an and was revealed in this manner at the beginning of its surahs and written at the behest of the Almighty, it is not a part of any surah including Surah Fatihah.

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor September 9, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    Sir if you don’t mind- what is the proof that it holds this special status?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    Its placement before every Surah.

  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor September 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Why can’t that mean that it is part of every surah? Is it also to with sunnah that it wasn’t transmitted that we read بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم before fatiha in prayer?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 9, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    Bismillah is recited before every good or lawful act we do. Does it make it a part of every act, for example eating, drinking or a sermon? So it is there for its own special status.

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