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  • Nuh عليه السلام Lived For 950 Years?

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on September 21, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    Why did Allah use two different words for year in the ayah:

    Al-‘Ankabut – 29:14

    Arabic

    وَلَقَدۡ أَرۡسَلۡنَا نُوحًا إِلَىٰ قَوۡمِهِۦ فَلَبِثَ فِيهِمۡ أَلۡفَ سَنَةٍ إِلَّا خَمۡسِينَ عَامًا فَأَخَذَهُمُ ٱلطُّوفَانُ وَهُمۡ ظَٰلِمُونَ

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 3 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Nuh عليه السلام Lived For 950 Years?

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad updated 3 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
  • Afia Khan

    Member September 21, 2020 at 9:23 pm
  • Umer

    Moderator September 22, 2020 at 1:48 am

    We use this ‘usloob’ even in our today’s urdu, its a matter of simple language use.

    Please also see this:

    Discussion 27996

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 22, 2020 at 2:04 am

      Could you give an example?

    • Umer

      Moderator September 22, 2020 at 2:35 am

      Come to Pakistan and live for a few months, you’ll experience it yourself Wink

      During normal social interactions like shopping and others, you can experience this kind of usloob (not too frequent, but it does exist and people are cognizant of this usloob)

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 22, 2020 at 2:37 am

      I do come every year bhai. But I haven’t ever hear two different words for year in the same sentence or at all.

      Could you just give like the words or a sentence?

    • Umer

      Moderator September 22, 2020 at 2:39 am

      Not for years, but now its mostly used in sense of rupees e.g 1,000 kam 50 rupay etc.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 22, 2020 at 2:40 am

      Sure sure that’s fine. But why did Allah say سنة then عام. The take 50 is fine

    • Umer

      Moderator September 22, 2020 at 2:44 am

      Since I am not an Arabic Linguist, probably our respectable scholar Irfan Shehzad Sahab (@Irfan76 )can give some insight into its linguistics, whenever he gets time.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 22, 2020 at 3:41 am

    The use of سنة and عام in the same sentence is to avoid repetition of the same word when it sounds not good and serve no purpose. Also, in Arabic, the former is used for period of trial and troubles and the latter for relief and prosperity. we can assume the it tells that 950 years of Noah’s preaching were very hard on him while the rest of the 50 years which he did not have to spend were a relief.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 22, 2020 at 4:10 am

      So does the use of عام increase the effect and paint a picture of greater difficulty?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 22, 2020 at 4:43 am

    contrary to it, Aam shows relief as mentioned in the first reply.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 22, 2020 at 8:13 am

      Yes- I mean so the 1000 years of hardship – removes 50 years of ease.

      So what does this use of different vocabulary entail for any meaning that we would extract?

      Unless it’s not used in this sense and it just means year.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor September 23, 2020 at 9:25 am
  • Afia Khan

    Member September 22, 2020 at 8:04 am

    In Urdu it is used for age

    ان کی عمر پچاس برس دو سال کم

    Or in ki Umar pachas saal do baras kam

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar September 23, 2020 at 10:45 am

    to avoid repetition of the same word when it sounds not good and serve no purpose.

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