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Quran 2:254 – Intercession
Doesn’t this ayah outright deny any form of intercession?
Al-Baqarah – 2:254
Arabic
يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ أَنفِقُواْ مِمَّا رَزَقۡنَٰكُم مِّن قَبۡلِ أَن يَأۡتِىَ يَوۡمٌ لَّا بَيۡعٌ فِيهِ وَلَا خُلَّةٌ وَلَا شَفَٰعَةٌۗ وَٱلۡكَٰفِرُونَ هُمُ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ
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Quran 2:254 – Intercession
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It sure does. Those who are convinced of the concept of intercession make room from the very next verse 2:255. Please watch:
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But the words إلا بإذنه- why does this mean that intercession will take place. Why doesn’t it mean that intercession wouldn’t happen unless he gave permission.
When intercession is categorically denied then doesn’t the wording that ‘who could intercede except his permission’ imply that no one would intercede since he has not given permission?
An-Naba’ – 78:38
Arabic
يَوۡمَ يَقُومُ ٱلرُّوحُ وَٱلۡمَلَٰٓئِكَةُ صَفًّاۖ لَّا يَتَكَلَّمُونَ إِلَّا مَنۡ أَذِنَ لَهُ ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنُ وَقَالَ صَوَابًا
How is this ayah talking about intercession?
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People will be allowed to second someone as per God’s permission. There shouldn’t be any confusion there.
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If I say ‘no eating upstairs’. Then I later say ‘how could anyone eat upstairs without my permission?’- then is it possible for someone to eat upstairs given my primary statement?
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There’s no intercession, period. 2:255 is about seconding someone.
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The same word is used. It seems to be that the same concept is mentioned in 255 that was rejected in 254. So unless there was a concept change that wouldn’t hold up in my view. Seconding others is obviously just a dua. Like the example I gave above- intercession is completely rejected as far as I can tell and unless there’s a concept change that would make sense
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I saw a saw that could not saw. Would you argue that the first saw is the same as the second and the third?
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I don’t get it
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The sentence “I saw a saw…” is a grammatically and linguistically correct sentence, and yet the word saw is used in three different meanings. The point about your previous argument about the same word being used in 2:54 and 2:55.
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Ok that makes sense. But what is the proof that the word intercession is being used in this way?
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The rest of the Quran.
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Which ayah specifically gives this other concept of intercession?
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I mean the one that would allow this concept change to be so clear between 254 and 255
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Please also see:
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Al-Baqarah – 2:48
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وَٱتَّقُواْ يَوۡمًا لَّا تَجۡزِى نَفۡسٌ عَن نَّفۡسٍ شَيۡـًٔا وَلَا يُقۡبَلُ مِنۡهَا شَفَٰعَةٌ وَلَا يُؤۡخَذُ مِنۡهَا عَدۡلٌ وَلَا هُمۡ يُنصَرُونَ
This ayah also seems to give a blanket statement of rejection of intercession
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Any further ideas?
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