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  • Beating Children If They Don't Pray

    Posted by Mohammad Saad on November 30, 2020 at 6:01 am

    Why is it allowed to physically punish innocent children? I mean a kid of 7 years age knows almost nothing about Islam and Ibadat. Why punish him/her then?

    Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-‘As:

    The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately.

    حَدَّثَنَا مُؤَمَّلُ بْنُ هِشَامٍ، – يَعْنِي الْيَشْكُرِيَّ – حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، عَنْ سَوَّارٍ أَبِي حَمْزَةَ، – قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ وَهُوَ سَوَّارُ بْنُ دَاوُدَ أَبُو حَمْزَةَ الْمُزَنِيُّ الصَّيْرَفِيُّ – عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ جَدِّهِ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ “‏ مُرُوا أَوْلاَدَكُمْ بِالصَّلاَةِ وَهُمْ أَبْنَاءُ سَبْعِ سِنِينَ وَاضْرِبُوهُمْ عَلَيْهَا وَهُمْ أَبْنَاءُ عَشْرِ سِنِينَ وَفَرِّقُوا بَيْنَهُمْ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ ‏”‏ ‏.‏

    Grade : Hasan Sahih (Al-Albani) حسن صحيح (الألباني) حكم

    Umer replied 3 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Ahsan

    Moderator November 30, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    First of all punishment is for 10 years old.
    I am not sure about applicabilityof hadith. But generally Ulema says that the punishment should be light that is it should not leave any mark or skin tear. It should be in private not publically. And face should be avoided.
    The philosphy behind forcing to prayer is to make habit of prayers from initial age according to various ulema.

    You can refer to this video where ghamdi sahab talk about punishing children.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxjPx-pTMM
    and other
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZCXUP-eSc

  • Umer

    Moderator November 30, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    Please refer to the video below from 41:40 to 44:14

  • Umer

    Moderator November 30, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 11:43 to 15:48

  • Rafia Khawaja

    Member December 1, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    I do not think children should be hit if they do not pray. You have to make them understand why they must pray. If you force them to pray then the minute they are old enough they will rebel. Like in madressas small children are beaten if they do not recite the Qur’an properly. This is horrible and unacceptable. Please check if the Hadith you are quoting is sahih

  • Umer

    Moderator December 7, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 44:21 to 47:50

    https://youtu.be/UiJes8b_YCI?t=2661

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