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Hadith About Killing Homosexuals
https://binbaz.org.sa/audios/125/3–من-حديث-لعن-الله-من-عمل-عمل-قوم-لوط-لعن-الله-من-عمل-عمل-قوم-لوطIs this hadith sahih- are homosexuals supposed to be killed?
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Hadith About Killing Homosexuals
updated 3 years, 11 months ago
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Also the hadith mentions bestiality- is the animal and the person commuting the and supposed to be killed too?
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In my opinion, the first question should be if Hadith is authentic or not. I believe none of the Hadith can be considered 100% correct when we take into consideration the exact words uttered, the context, the circumstances and the errors that might have crept in, etc. Some Hadith may be more reliable and some may be extremely weak. You must also check a hadith against the Quran, especially the general principals. Is there anything in Quran that talks about killing homosexuals or taking law in to your hand? The answer is clear…NO.
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here i will mention that if they conceal their sins and donot publicize it then in my opinion there will be no punishment other than lashes if found out as per Quran directives
If they publicize or promote things,then it may be considered as fitna or fisaad which may come under death penalty as per Quran.In Ghamdi sb book Burhan, there is discussion about rajam, i think context can be applied in this case too.
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There is nothing in Quran about punishment. But I do not think homosexuality comes under Fitna and Fasad. To qualify for that the acts need to be causing directly or indirectly physical harm, property damage or oppression. Please correct if I am wrong. Also homosexuality can’t be worse than spreading shirk and that is not punishable by death.
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act of homosexuality is considered abhorrent in quran. it is an ethical issue thats why it can be considered fitnah o fisaad. Since in Islam, marriage can happen between a male and female so homosexuality will automatically come under umbrella of zina.
Generally zina bil raza has nothing to do with destruction of property opression etc. But ghamdi sab has consider it as fitna too. kindly read this link, page 613, chapter Fisaad fil ard
https://ghamidi.tv/books/meezan-254
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@AhmadShoaib
Please post English version of these Ahadith, select a few representative Ahadith along with their sources (due to time constraints I cannot do it myself). We can take Hassan Sahab’s or Ghamidi Sahab’s take on them.
For a detailed discussion on the matter, please see:
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Ahadith will be understood in frame of Quran. There is a possiblity of death penalty for homosexuals in Islamic law after fullfilling reuqirements of witnesses and proofs
kindly read this link, page 613, chapter Fisaad fil ard
https://ghamidi.tv/books/meezan-254
Homosexuality will be cosidered as Zina as per above video -
This is not the view held by Ghamidi Sahab. Please watch the complete video posted above.
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The talk around 19 min implies that out side your marriage sexual relations are zina. And marriage is between male and female, so i inferred homosexuality will be cosnidered zina, isnt it? @UmerQureshi sb
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Zina is a very specific term with very specific connotations with it being an act of copulation between a male and a female out of wedlock. Therefore, homosexuality by definition doesn’t fall directly within the definition of Zina which is actually declared a crime by Islam.
Please see this:
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And these comments of Ghamidi Sahab as well:
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Thank you i will read them
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