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Can God Do Anything?
Take the classical can God create a rock he can’t lift? Or can God create another God?
Do these all come under وما أوتيتم من العلم إلا قليلا?
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Can God Do Anything?
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And how does this hold up with Allah being قدير على كل شيئ?
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Isn’t this the answer to the above also? قدير على كل شيئ Because of His Being existing from Awal to Akhir and Zahir to Batin, so His Qudrat would also be above all.
Also, what would ‘lift’ imply here? All that exists is His Knowledge. All that exists and will exist is a manifestation of His Knowledge. And that rock never existed. This is what made Him the First and The Last. And this is what makes His names/attributes testify to this very fact. Al Qadir then would only suffice as His name if there isn’t a rock that He couldn’t lift.
I think.
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What makes you think that God wouldn’t be able to create a rock that He can’t lift?
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Because then if he created such a rock he would not be على كل شيئ قدير
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He can create a rock that He can’t lift, but then lift it as well. Of course it’s not logical, but that only explains the limitations of our logic – not the omnipotence of God.
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Limitations of our human logic in comparison to the being of God
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He would have to create another creation like us who cannot lift the rock. So the rock is being lifted (by Him) and not being lifted at the same time. Two realities are being achieved at the same time just to point towards One.
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If he could ‘create’ that rock why wouldn’t He be able to lift it? Im sure we’re not implying the physical act of lifting here? If He could ‘create’ the very material that makes it hard to lift the rock, why wouldn’t He be able to lift it?
And so i also think the example of robots and humans isn’t correct because we’re only creating from what pre existed. Then there are external factors that pre existed too. In the case of God, all of that is going to flow from Him. So i dont get it. @AhmadShoaib
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I think the principle of limited logic is strong enough
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We can ask an other similar question to help answer the above question:
Can a man invent a robot that enslaves its inventor?
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Perhaps
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Right. In other words even if he can he wont.
This is also the answer to your question.
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‘Even if he can he won’t’ so we simply don’t know? We can’t comprehend the being of God so I guess it comes under that
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Yes i think so.
There are many un-Godly acts that God wont do such as breaking a promise, be unfair to anyone, tell a lie etc.
creating a rock bigger than what he can lift or other similar hypothetical questions also fall under the category of “un-Godly acts — i suppose.
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I think they lying and being unfair is easily answered as it doesn’t contain a fallacy.
For example, lying is only done in problems or times where you have to lie out of need, or if you are greedy. Al-Ghaniy is never in those situations.
But the questions like creating a married bachelor or a square circle I guess you could say is just a logical fallacy.
Same with a rock being heavier than God.
Also this rock question introduces anthropomorphism to God- assigning him a space and a time which the Quran rejects
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Yes agree God exists in a different state free of cause and effect laws of this universe and therefore the attributes like “bigger”, “greater” or “heavier” etc are not even relevant or applicable.
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@AhmadShoaib I think ur opinion of logical fallacy is more appropriate then any other answer as these type of question are ratinally meaningless
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This is a trick question where the person posing the question sets a basis that God can do everything and then asks to break the same base he setup in the first place. So it is not a correct question. Following the base of this question, God can make as big of a rock as he wishes and he can lift it too. There is no other choice.
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