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  • Women And Isbaal And The Implication For Men

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on December 22, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    Jami` at-Tirmidhi Book 24 Hadith 1731

    Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: That the Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said: “Whoever arrogantly drags his garment, Allah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement.” So Umm Salamah said: “What should the women do with their hems?” He said: “Slacken them a handspan.” So she said: “Then their feet will be uncovered.” He said: “Then slacken them a forearm’s length and do not add to that.”

    Why is this permission given to women if the real thing was to stop arrogance? Was it not arrogant for women to do isbaal?

    Also- this hadith seems to implicate that women should not uncover their feet- what relevance does this hold?

    Jubair Ahmed replied 2 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Women And Isbaal And The Implication For Men

    Jubair Ahmed updated 2 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator December 24, 2020 at 3:57 pm
  • Umer

    Moderator December 24, 2020 at 4:03 pm
  • Umer

    Moderator December 24, 2020 at 4:04 pm
  • Ahmad Shoaib

    Contributor December 24, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    And the women part?

    • Umer

      Moderator December 24, 2020 at 5:48 pm

      The manifestation of arrogance is an applied matter. At that time, this isbal was mainly associated with men as a symbol of arrogance and hence, the directive was mainly focused on men if you collect and analyse all the narrations on this matter. I think that women part has to do with God-Consciousness of women at that time and Prophet (sws) didn’t just dismiss it, but instead, He (sws) gave due regard to their god-fearing reaction as well..

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor December 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

      So the answer to someone trying to argue that women have to cover their feet would be that the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم didn’t actually start the conversation of covering the feet- implying that women could pull it up if they wanted.

    • Umer

      Moderator December 24, 2020 at 5:52 pm

      I think with that someone we need to first have a discussion on Sources of religion, their mutual relationship and how does hadith corpus interact with those sources. But at an isolated level, sure that response is valid.

    • Jubair Ahmed

      Member July 30, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      Did Ghamidi Saab ever talk about this issue in any of his videos? I can’t find any video of him where he discussed about this incident of Umm Salamah (RA)

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