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  • Wishing Merry Christmas

    Faisal Haroon updated 2 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 18 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator December 24, 2020 at 1:15 pm
  • Umer

    Moderator December 24, 2020 at 1:15 pm

  • Muhammad Wasif

    Member December 24, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    If 25th is the birthday of Jesus then even it’s a good event for Muslims too right?

    Is 25th actually birthday of Jesus?

    • Umer

      Moderator December 24, 2020 at 1:50 pm

      25th December as being birthday of Prophet Jesus (sws) is contestable just like 12th Rabiulawwal for Prophet Muhammad (sws) is contestable. In such matters of history, there will always be differences but one or the other narrative gains general approval at times and a majority starts following that.

      Your first question has already been answered in the video links provided above in my first reply.

  • Muhammad Wasif

    Member December 24, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    So which date Gamidi sb believe is right? 25th December or 6th January regarding birthday of Jesus

    • Umer

      Moderator December 24, 2020 at 1:53 pm

      I have no clue.

  • Lubna Waleem

    Member December 24, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    Assalamoalaikum WRWB

    This is a matter currently under debate on social media. My basic concern is that:

    کیا اس بات کا ادراک ہونے کے بعد کہ کرسچین دراصل

    حضرت عیسی علیہ السلام کی پیدئش بطور خدا کے بیٹے کے مناتے ہیں(نعوذ باللہ) آیا ہمارے لئے بحیثیت مسلمان اس بات کی گنجائش رہتی ہے کہ ہم “میری کرسمس” ہی کہیں؟

    بجائے اسکے کیا

    Happy holidays or seasons greetings

    کہا جاسلتا ہے؟

    • Umer

      Moderator December 24, 2020 at 3:01 pm

      Please watch the links provided in my first response, this specific question has been answered there.

  • Muhammad Wasif

    Member December 26, 2020 at 4:11 am

    I want a little bit of more explanation

    People say that Christmas is related to shirk so we must not congratulate and attend it. This is because they celebrate it because they believe Jesus as son of God so we congratulating it and attending it make us part of shirk. Kindly explain this and do give analysis on this video too.

    https://fb.watch/2CLvb3nVSy/

  • Umer

    Moderator December 26, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    For a detailed response, please refer to the video below from 00:56 to 10:36

    https://youtu.be/bypN2Cu8uwo?t=56

    Alternative Link: ilm-o-Hikmat 26-03-2017

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member September 12, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    But in it the Hadith which Ghamidi sahab told,”Abdullah Ibn e Abbas R.A said that when Prophet S.A.W fasted on Ashura and ordered then he said that it’s a day of honor for Jews,then Prophet S.A.W said that next year we will fast on 9th Muharram,but Prophet S.A.W didn’t live next year”,so in this Prophet S.A.W said a way to differentiate from Jews.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 12, 2021 at 7:59 pm

    It wasn’t about differentiating from the Jews but to show more closer ties with Moses than the Jews.

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member September 12, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    How a person can take out that result from the Hadith i have mentioned,like he said it’s an honorable day for Jews,then Prophet S.A.W said that we will fast on 9th Muharram next year,so how?

    And also there is hassan sahih Hadith in Abi Dawood about “he who copies any people is one of them”?

    Thankyou

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 12, 2021 at 10:25 pm

    Please share your reference so that we can be sure that we’re talking about the same thing.

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member September 13, 2021 at 5:56 am

    سنن کبریٰ للبیہقی

    کتاب: روزوں کا بیان

    باب: نویں دن کا روزہ رکھنا

    حدیث نمبر: 8404

    (۸۴۰۱) حَدَّنَثَا أَبُو الْحَسَنِ : مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحُسَیْنِ بْنِ دَاوُدَ الْعَلَوِیُّ إِمْلاَئً أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو نَصْرٍ : مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَمْدُوَیْہِ بْنِ سَہْلٍ الْمُطَّوِّعِیُّ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّہِ بْنُ حَمَّادٍ الآمُلِیُّ حَدَّثَنَا سَعِیدُ بْنُ أَبِی مَرْیَمَ

    (ح) وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُحَمَّدٍ : عَبْدُ اللَّہِ بْنُ یُوسُفَ الأَصْبَہَانِیُّ وَاللَّفْظُ لَہُ أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو بَکْرٍ : مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحُسَیْنِ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ الْقَطَّانُ أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَیُّوَیْہِ أَخْبَرَنَا سَعِیدُ بْنُ أَبِی مَرْیَمَ حَدَّثَنَا یَحْیَی بْنُ أَیُّوبَ حَدَّثَنِی إِسْمَاعِیلُ بْنُ أُمَّیَّۃَ : أَنَّہُ سَمِعَ أَبَا غَطَفَانَ بْنَ طَرِیفٍ یَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللَّہِ بْنَ عَبَّاسٍ یَقُولُ حِینَ صَامَ رَسُولُ اللَّہِ -ﷺ- یَوْمَ عَاشُورَائَ وَأَمَرَ بِصِیَامِہِ قَالُوا : یَا رَسُولَ اللَّہِ إِنَّہُ یَوْمٌ تُعَظِّمُہُ الْیَہُودُ وَالنَّصَارَی فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّہِ -ﷺ- : ((فَإِذَا کَانَ الْعَامُ الْمُقْبِلُ صُمْنَا یَوْمَ التَّاسِعَ إِنْ شَائَ اللَّہُ))۔ قَالَ فَلَمْ یَأْتِ الْعَامُ الْمُقْبِلُ حَتَّی تُوُفِّیَ النَّبِیُّ -ﷺ-۔

    رَوَاہُ مُسْلِمٌ فِی الصَّحِیحِ عَنِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِیٍّ الْحُلْوَانِیِّ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِی مَرْیَمَ۔ [صحیح۔ اخرجہ مسلم]

    ترجمہ:

    (٨٤٠١) عبداللہ بن عباس ؓ بیان کرتے ہیں کہ جب رسول اللہ ﷺ یومِ عاشور کا روزہ رکھا تو اس کے روزہ رکھنے کا حکم دیا۔ انھوں نے کہا کہ اللہ کے رسول ﷺ یہ وہ دن جس کی یہودی تعظیم کرتے ہیں تو اللہ کے رسول ﷺ نے فرمایا: جب آئندہ سال آئے گا تو ہم انشاء اللہ نو تاریخ کا بھی روزہ رکھیں گے۔ راوی کہتے ہیں کہ آئندہ سال نہ آیا مگر آپ ﷺ پہلے ہی وفات پا گئے۔

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 13, 2021 at 10:15 am

    There’s nothing in the narration you shared about opposing the Jews or differentiating from them. Please see the following narrations for further context:

    https://sunnah.com/muslim:1130c

    https://sunnah.com/muslim:1134a

    https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3942

    https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4737

    https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2004

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member September 13, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    But why did he say to fast on 9th then,like when it was said to him that it is a day of high esteem among them then he said that we will fast on 9th,it doesn’t clarify that fasting on 9th is because of being nearer to him if we see the context of that Hadith.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 13, 2021 at 2:39 pm

    Hadith narrations can’t be understood in isolation. Every narration must be understood along with all narrations on a given subject in the light of the Quran and the Sunnah. When understood like that, it’s very clear why the fasting of Ashura was recommended by the Prophet.

    Since this discussion has derailed from the original topic, it will now be closed. If you have further questions please feel free to create new discussions with one objective question per discussion.

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