It is in my no worry list by far, but what worries is the overwhelming division in humanity based on such divisive theories into momin & kafir! Also, there’s constant invitation to Islam, where these are our responses.

Ur not mentioning the second half where the punishment of not accepting is hell !!!!!!

Your very Allah almighty has said that all non believers will go to hell. it is a confirmed info in Quran…..so you are not supposed to add your own into that

Then one has no reason to even entertain such a God interpretation…..and non believers being sent to hell should be scrapped from the book right away…. It is so gross and absurd

I see that you assess replies according to your convenience where I also mentioned that even while we are least bothered about such fanciful philosophy, we see in it a clear attack on the unity within humankind where it is a divisive philosophy between momin and kaafer…..where the God is hating kafirs, the followers of that God also do that subconsciously. also that we need to reply to the constant invitations and show you how crude the philosophy is, so that you hunt more towards true spirituality

There’s nothing to study…..it’s v clear that ur imagination is sending me to hell (not in reality but in ur unacceptable imagination). Change that kind of imagination and grow up to real spirituality without interfering in who believes ur imagined God and who not, without him sending any disbeliever to hell.

It only sums up a belief system, not a factual & logical argument. That belief again is not to be thrust on us and imagine of sending us to hell.

Ur not free to imagine non-believers going to hell for no crime on humanity.

Of course ur imagined God is thrusting forced belief on us non-believers at the gunpoint of hell. How can u say no?

1. Ur human rights seem not to recognise that ur imagination, i.e. ur God concept cannot thrust itself on non-believers either, at the gunpoint of hell. Those who don’t subscribe to ur unique imagination should be respectfully left alone and definitely not sent to hell by ur imagined God.

2.Free to follow and thereby go to hell? Quite a freedom indeed!

3. Same.

4. And go to hell?

5. Ur imagined God is unfortunately doing that on us kafirs

6. To be sending us to hell upon not accepting Him….is that correctly understood?

But on using exactly that, ur imagined Allah is sending us kafirs to the hell, isn’t it???

But your imagined god is certainly bound by the tenets of reason and fairness of our intellects, and above all completely outside the jurisdiction of personal choices of life and our spiritual paths and cannot send us to hell for using those. Your god is certainly bound by our conception of morality

Concerned because you sincerely believe that god is sending us to hell….. which is also an offensive statement

Someone going to hell are you doubting regarding the words of the Quran?

you cannot start imagining and declaring that we are wretched creatures going to hell…. that no UN charter allows you to do…..you can only probably do that within your mind but it will still be immoral and illogical to do so….if you have a penchant of going to hell, please go, but don’t include us in it by declaring it

I would abuse you which neither you are in reality nor would you believe that but still you would be offended. I cannot dictate you if you keep it within your mind but you cannot DECLARE that.

ARE ALL NON BELIEVERS NOT GOING TO HELL? WHO ARE THE EXCEPTIONS?

IF YOUR IMAGINED GOD ENCROACHES UPON OUR CHOICE OF SPIRITUALITY, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS IMMORAL. How would you justify that as moral????

You r asking me for proof… Don’t you believe non believers will go to hell?

You can very well understand why it is offensive to put us to hell by your God….. This is your imagination and not ours…… So how are we into that game? You need to absolutely change the wordings of the book regarding us

Where is it said that certain non believers will be exempted from going to hell??? and moreover why should even a single non believer go to hell who doesn’t even buy your philosophy??? who gave you the right to encroach upon his destiny thru your imagined God?

Who the hell is he to interfere in my life? In fact he is a creation of your presumptions, so you have no right to thrust your PRESUMPTIONS on me by declaring that I will go to hell

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I have every right to ignore the supposed father who is unable to give any proof right now…..if I get the proof only in the hereafter, then I should not be judged upon my decisions here….. And I have not done any deal with YOUR IMAGINED father to repay according to his whimsical demands…. If I got something for 20 years, I was entitled to it by birth in that family. Not acknowledging may not be advisable but certainly not a crime, let alone incurring hell. That he is expecting all these acknowledgements again is your whimsical imagination, not necessarily a fact

You cannot declare that I am going to hell based on such s self-possessed belief. That is an insult, plus irrational.

That we worldly people will decide, not your imagined God.

Ur imagined God can punish you within your imagination!!!!! He or she cannot punish me even in your imagination because it is your personal opinion and not ours, and cannot punish me in reality either because of the same reason!!!!!!

What your imagined God terms as arrogance is either lack of evidence, or doubt, or plain discretion to accept or reject any belief system or foreign philosophy….. I cannot be put to hell for any of these conditions

I choose not to answer fictitious questions

I’m asking coz ur God sends US to hell, in ur fiction of course. This is insulting, crude, and interfering. U can’t say such intrusive things in civilized society.

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I have every right to ignore the supposed father who is unable to give any proof right now…..if I get the proof only in the hereafter, then I should not be judged upon my decisions here….. And I have not done any deal with YOUR IMAGINED father to repay according to his whimsical demands…. If I got something for 20 years, I was entitled to it by birth in that family. Not acknowledging may not be advisable but certainly not a crime, let alone incurring hell. That he is expecting all these acknowledgements again is your whimsical imagination, not necessarily a fact

Pathetic misunderstanding on ur part!!!

1. Absolutely all non-believers are going to hell as per ur imagined God character on the fake pretext of them not accepting that being true God!!! Why? I would retain all my rights to reject ur philosophy even if by any chance I had found it 💯% true, coz choosing or not is my sweet will, & I don’t owe anything to ur imagined philosophy to accept it.

2. Sufficient evidence of a creator? Who decides? I have no firm reason to believe there is such a creator character & having such unique demands from its non-believers!!!! The existence might have just any other cause too! We don’t know…& U call it sufficient reason!!!! How have u found about that creator? By mere blind belief, wch u call reason! Not accepting a baseless unempirical hypothesis is NOT arrogance but rational temper……I don’t owe anything to anyone that to respectfully reject his imaginations and stories I can held as arrogant!

3. Ones who don’t have it in their hearts that such a God with such attributes and unique wishes exists too will land up in hell on the false pretext that had reason to believe that and they denied!!! WHAT IF IN TRUTH WE HAVE NO REASON, JUST LIKE I HAVE NO REASON TO ENTERTAIN UR STORIES….THEN? WILL I ESCAPE HELL? ABSOLUTELY NO, AS PER UR GOD. PLUS Ur imagined character is dismissing all personal rights of freedom to choose….WE OUTRIGHTLY REJECT SUCH AN INTRUSIVE GOD CHARACTER.

What you call a denial and arrogance even after sincere understanding is basically jumping to judge him and infringe on his right to choose. Your imagined god has no right to do either of these two. I may choose to even reject it based on insincere grounds because that right I retain with myself from beginning to end. Who is he to pass judgements on me? If I do not have proof today, I will probably not have in the hereafter either. What imaginary claims I am risking for the hereafter cannot dictate my life and decisions here and now. if the proof is presented only in the hereafter, I cannot be judged on not having accepted Him here….. I should have every opportunity to accept him then instead of now….. Till then I am happy to be a Kafir and reject him altogether because I am both logically and morally entitled to do so as per above

I don’t take much interest in imagined stories…. give me proof here.

See my above answer

Religion, as it is generally taught all over the world, is said to be based upon faith and belief, and, in most cases, consists only of different sets of theories, and that is the reason why we find all religions quarrelling with one another. These theories, again, are based upon belief. One man says there is a great Being sitting above the clouds and governing the whole universe, and he asks me to believe that solely on the authority of his assertion. In the same way, I may have my own ideas, which I am asking others to believe, and if they ask a reason, I cannot give them any……Yet, in all of them we find one consensus of opinion, that the truths they teach are the results of the experiences of particular persons. The Christian asks you to believe in his religion, to believe in Christ and to believe in him as the incarnation of God, to believe in a God, in a soul, and in a better state of that soul. If I ask him for reason, he says he believes in them. But if you go to the fountain-head of Christianity, you will find that it is based upon experience. Christ said he saw God; the disciples said they felt God; and so forth. Similarly, in Buddhism, it is Buddha’s experience. He experienced certain truths, saw them, came in contact with them, and preached them to the world. So with the Hindus. In their books the writers, who are called Rishis, or sages, declare they experienced certain truths, and these they preach. Thus it is clear that all the religions of the world have been built upon that one universal and adamantine foundation of all our knowledge — direct experience. The teachers all saw God; they all saw their own souls, they saw their future, they saw their eternity, and what they saw they preached…..The teachers of the science of Yoga, therefore, declare that religion is not only based upon the experience of ancient times, but that no man can be religious until he has the same perceptions himself. Yoga is the science which teaches us how to get these perceptions. It is not much use to talk about religion until one has felt it. Why is there so much disturbance, so much fighting and quarrelling in the name of God? There has been more bloodshed in the name of God than for any other cause, because people never went to the fountain-head; they were content only to give a mental assent to the customs of their forefathers, and wanted others to do the same. What right has a man to say he has a soul if he does not feel it, or that there is a God if he does not see Him? If there is a God we must see Him, if there is a soul we must perceive it; otherwise it is better not to believe. It is better to be an outspoken atheist than a hypocrite.

You would do yourself absolutely no harm if you carefully go through this small book by none other than the great Swami Vivekananda….. It will clear many presumptions and fanaticism and get one a firm rationale about spirituality.

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda/Volume_1/Raja-Yoga

Then convince me now! If u cannot do that now, how will he do that then? & even if he manages to do that then, my activities and decisions here certainly are not going to be applicable logically!!!! So by virtue of what will he send me to hell???

How do you confirmedly know that there is even such a God who knows all this?

After all that is your own imagination of God, so how do you know those things will be applicable on me who does not even subscribe to such imaginations????

But your petty blind belief can be far far away from reality. Don’t presume it to be reality

I already consider you pretty intelligent and read your points carefully. it is you who has accepted somebody as a prophet and believe that there is a God with those unique wishes so you can decide YOUR mission of life not of us kafirs….. If we have been blessed with bounties, we have been thrust with tragedies also…..and a bondage too of being born captive in a body and mind from birth to death…. We really cannot attribute all this to an imagined God character who is making preposterous demands of being accepted even by non believers at the gunpoint of hell!!! This we must logically dismiss all such imaginations and keep our exploration open about this creation & its purpose instead of holding onto someone’s unique claim who cannot even answer why the hell goers were created in the first place instead of fundamentally avoiding their tragedies of hell by not at all creating them. the complexities of our physical and psychological existence ur attributing to an unknown agent merely based on somebody’s claim, which is absurd, whereas I am keeping the possibility open to exploration. You cannot pinpoint that this verily is the cause without having had any first hand and verifiable experience

Good, keep exploring, not believing

All opinions, not proof