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  • Hadees About Ammar Bin Yasir

    Waleed Ahmad updated 11 months, 1 week ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator January 2, 2021 at 11:52 pm

    Please clearly state your concerns.

    • Shahid Nazir

      Member January 3, 2021 at 1:02 am

      In this hadith it is stated that Ammar will be killed by rebell group and this rebell group will invite him to hell, and he was killed by Mauwiya R.A group so does it mean Mauwiya R.A group was rebell and his group was on wrong side and inviting people to hell?

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator January 3, 2021 at 1:19 am

      So let’s say that you actually establish that Muawiya RA was an evil person. Then what? How does it make any difference to your Islam?

    • Shahid Nazir

      Member January 3, 2021 at 2:23 am

      Well it is not the question of emaan but then arises some questions on Mauwiya R.A character and also he is narrator of Ahadith so how can we accept hadith from him if he is such evil person

    • Arsalan Riaz

      Member January 3, 2021 at 3:57 am

      Yes and Ghamidi sahab also thinks that it was a political matter that was resolved through the sword. But if it was just a political matter then this Hadith doesn’t make any sense. Because I think Ghamidi sahab don’t consider Muawiya (RA) as a rebel. He thinks it was the only solution available after the assissanation of caliph Usman (RA).

    • Waleed Ahmad

      Member June 28, 2022 at 10:32 am

      It makes alot of difference. Calling the tyrant a tyrant is actually a good deed. One should be brave enough to oppose the tyranny of tyrant.

  • Umer

    Moderator January 3, 2021 at 5:36 am

    To understand principles on how to understand these matters from epistemological stand point, please refer to the video below from 44:46 till end

    • Arsalan Riaz

      Member January 3, 2021 at 6:41 am

      I think we can safely assume that these kind of ahadith were very convenient because we all know that most of hadith books were written during the Abbasid period who were staunch enemies of Umayyads. So maybe some hadith scholars included these kind of hadith into their books to please the Abbasid caliphs. Is it possible ?

  • Umer

    Moderator October 15, 2021 at 11:30 am

    For recent comments of Ghamidi Shaab on narration regarding Ammar Bin Yasir (rta), please refer to the video below from 27:44 to 38:12

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