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  • Ahsan Jalal

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 10:45 am

    During reading Psalms, I came across this verse which says

    164 Seven times a day I praise you for your righteous laws.

    165 Great peace have those who love your law, and nothing can make them stumble.

    Does it means that Hazrat Dawood AS prayed 7 times. If yes then how Ghamidi Sb claims 5 time prayers were alawys in shariah.
    If this doesnt mean prayer can you explain the real meaning here?

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 11:19 am

    As I see it.

    Every word and every statement has a context. I take that as a principle.

    We are comparing the prayers of a prophet to the general population in this question. So the context is different between the comparisons.

    Prophets are held at a higher standard than the general population. Like Salawt al lail was compulsory on the prophet but not on the general population. Ghamidi sahib is talking about the compulsory salawt on the general population.

    This is what I have understood from the lectures of respected Ghamidi Sahib

  • Ahsan Jalal

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 11:36 am

    Thank you for ur response. You may be right.

    when i search on google. I found that based on this verse some christian prays 7 times.
    https://www.prayerfoundation.org/dailyoffice/the_seven_hours_of_prayer.htm

    in another commentary
    https://biblehub.com/psalms/119-164.htm
    it says 7 has association with herbews or in another 1 it means indefinite.

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    Many thanks for an interesting question. I am also studying it now.

    The link below from Mizan might help.

    The Islamic Sharī‘ah of Worship Rituals / The Prayer / History of the Prayer https://www.javedahmedghamidi.org/#!/mizan/5aa6a4315e891e8f44a45788?chapterNo=4&subChapterNo=0&subChsecNo=0&lang=en

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 1:04 pm
  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    The screen shots shared above are from Mizan in English and from Encyclopedia Britannica

  • Ahsan Jalal

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 1:08 pm

    Thanks for sharing th elinks and images.
    It can explain why they offer 3 times instead of 5.
    Perphaps your earliear explanation was right in which you said for prophets its different.

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor January 11, 2021 at 1:20 pm

    It would seem to me that there are variations in the number of prayers and they contracted them into 3. There are supererogatory prayers as well much like in Islam.

    Stay blessed, always

  • Ahsan Jalal

    Contributor January 12, 2021 at 2:00 am

    Thank you for sharing your wisdom

    • Mohammad Yaseen

      Contributor January 12, 2021 at 3:12 am

      I merely shared information. I am actually looking for wisdom.

      I am glad that you found help. Stay blessed, always

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