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    Posted by Muhammad Abdullah on March 16, 2021 at 11:52 pm

    عموماً بدعت کو دین میں نیا عمل شامل کرنے کو کہا جاتا ہے مگر ساتھ ہی بہت سے ایسے اعمال ہیں جن کی توجیہ کر کے اُن کو بدعت کے دائرے سے باہر لے جایا جاتا ہے (مثلاً، تراویح کا با جماعت ادا کرنا، جُمعہ کا مسجد کے امام کے پیچھے ادا کرنا وغیرہ)

    سوال یہ ہے کہ اگر ایک شخص جماعت کے بعد اجتماعی دُعا کرتا ہے، جو کہ کچھ مواقع سے رسول ص سے ثابت بھی ہے تو اُس کو بدعت قرار دیا جاتا ہے جبکہ با جماعت تراویح کو اس سے باز رکھا جاتا ہے۔ بالکل اسی طرح جُمعہ کی نماز کی بھی توجیح کی جاتی ہے کہ چونکہ اس کی یاد باقی رکھی جاۓ اس لیۓ یہ بدعت نہیں ہے اور تیمم کے اُصول کی بُنیاد پر ہے۔

    بعض اوقات یہ بھی کہا جاتا ہے کہ کسی عمل کو دین کا حصہ بنا دینا اور کہنا کہ یہ نبی ص سے ثابت ہے (اور حقیقتاً) ایسا نہ ہو تو صرف و صرف وہ عمل بدعت ہے۔ ہاں اگر کوئ اپنے شوق سے تتوع کرے تو وہ بدعت نہیں ہے۔ اگر ایسا ہے تو کیا ہر نماز کے بعد انفرادی طور پر ایک سجدہِ شُکر ادا کرنا تتوع ہو گا یا بدعت؟

    اور اگر اِس کو اجتماعی طور پر سر انجام دیا جاۓ یہ ذہن میں رکھتے ہوۓ کہ یہ محض تتوع ہے، دین کا کوئ لازم حصہ نہیں ہے، اُس صورتِ حال میں کیا یہ بدعت کہلاۓ گا؟ اگر ہاں تو کیوں؟

    از راہِ کرم ایک ایسی جامد تعریف بیان کر دی جاۓ کے جس کے بعد ممکن حد تک شکوک و شُبہات باقی نہ رہیں یہ تعین کرنے میں کہ کیا بدعت ہو گی اور کیا نہیں۔

    بشکریہ،

    Muhammad Abdullah replied 3 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Comprehensive Definition Of Biddat

    Muhammad Abdullah updated 3 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
  • Muhammad Abdullah

    Member March 16, 2021 at 11:54 pm
  • Muhammad Abdullah

    Member March 17, 2021 at 12:02 am

    ختم کے معاملے میں بھی کُچھ ایسا ہی دیکھنے کو ملتا ہے۔ حالانکہ یہ واضع ہے کہ یہ دین کا کام نہیں محض ثواب و برکت کی دعا کے لیۓ قرآن کی کُچھ آیات پڑھ کر دعا کی جاتی ہے مگر اِس کو تتوع کی فہرست سے اُٹھا کر بدعت کی مہر لگا دی جاتی ہے یہ کہ کر کہ اس طرح کا تتوع/نیک عمل پیغمبرِ خدا ص سے ثابت نہیں ہے۔

  • Najam Zaman

    Member March 17, 2021 at 4:02 am

    In accordance with Surah e Ahraff Ayat 33 where Almighty Allah has explained that what things are forbidden in relation with ehics in Islam, the fourth thing is saying things on Allah for which you have no knowledge i.e. the things that are not proven from any source of Islam and you have no evidence regarding those things, are completely forbidden. In my point of view this is the correct definition of term “Bidah”. The Ayah 33 of Surah e Araf is:

    قُلۡ اِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ رَبِّیَ الۡفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَہَرَ مِنۡہَا وَ مَا بَطَنَ وَ الۡاِثۡمَ وَ الۡبَغۡیَ بِغَیۡرِ الۡحَقِّ وَ اَنۡ تُشۡرِکُوۡا بِاللّٰہِ مَا لَمۡ یُنَزِّلۡ بِہٖ سُلۡطٰنًا وَّ اَنۡ تَقُوۡلُوۡا عَلَی اللّٰہِ مَا لَا تَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿۳۳

    • Muhammad Abdullah

      Member March 17, 2021 at 6:01 pm

      Agreed! The confusion occurs when justifications are made for a certain things whereas other things are regarded as Bidat even if those acts are considered to be optional and not associated with the messenger PBUH. The definition that is provided in the detailed response of Mr. Sajid Hameed as shared by @UmerQureshi , has this confusion in it. That is why I referred to the specific examples which are mentioned in those responses.

  • Umer

    Moderator March 17, 2021 at 8:30 am

    Please see this response by Sajid Hameed Sahab:

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    • Muhammad Abdullah

      Member March 17, 2021 at 8:39 am

      Jzk for that. If you notice, my thread incorporates those points. I had confusion even after reading that detailed response hence, used the references from that as well.

    • Umer

      Moderator March 20, 2021 at 12:43 pm

      I will request Hassan Sahab to provide further insight into this matter.

      In the meantime, please refer to following responses.

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    • Muhammad Abdullah

      Member March 20, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      Jzk for this. I’d really appreciate a response from him answering those concerns.

      From the videos that you shared 2 key points were taken away

      1: Anything new related to religion without having association with prophet PBUH is bidat

      2: Any optional good religious act when transformed into a congregational act is bidat.

      After this, I’d again refer to the original examples as below for the ease to understand the questions and answering them

      1: Dua after congregational prayer was (occasionally) done by prophet. This act, when done nowadays, is termed as Bidat even though it is proved (to the satisfaction) from prophet.

      2: Taraweeh is an individual and optional religious act. When this was transformed into a congregational act then why it is not termed as a Bidat as per according to the 2nd key point by Ghamidi shb himself (listed above)

      3: Jumma is already a congregational act and has certain requirements. Then why this change, which is not at individual level, is not termed as Bidat but merely considered an application of rule of tayamum when clearly this can be seen that this is (1) an introduction of a new thing in a religious act (2) at a congregational level.

      Hence, the definitions of either adding a new thing or transforming an optional religious act into a congregational form fail in these examples and this requires a concrete definition which doesn’t leave a space for any justification for certain acts which are then not termed as Bidat.

  • Muhammad Abdullah

    Member March 26, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    @UmerQureshi , Wanted to circle back if Mr. @hassan or some other scholar had a chance to look into this?

    • Umer

      Moderator March 26, 2021 at 10:28 pm

      It has already been forwarded to Mr. Hassan ilyas. He will Insha’Allah respond whenever he gets a chance.

  • Umer

    Moderator April 16, 2021 at 2:25 pm

    In recent Q&A Session with Ghamidi Sahab on Questions selected from ASK GHAMIDI Platform:

    For answer to your question, please refer to the video below from 21:47 to 30:26

    https://youtu.be/fEmX2bA8K6w?start=21m47s

    • Muhammad Abdullah

      Member April 16, 2021 at 2:38 pm

      Jzk!

      This helps clearing the confusion of tagging Dua after prayer to be Bidah. Turned out it’s only the logical fallacy instead of Bidah.

      Thanks a lot for sharing this.

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