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Sex Slavery In The Light Of History And The Quran
Posted by A Hasan on April 2, 2021 at 7:26 amThe Quran m, in many places, allows sexual relations with slaves. The question arises, what slave would every deny sex to a master demanding it? Of course it seems that they wouldn’t in fear of being punished. So isn’t it likely that this verse would be supporting a sort of rape?
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Sex Slavery In The Light Of History And The Quran
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Munnoo Khan
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:14 amWith due respect, I think you haven’t watched Mr. Ghamidi’s lectures on this topic with full attention. He has explained this issue with details.
Islam has allowed sex with wife and yet some voices still raised regarding possibility of rape there.
Mr. Ghamidi has beautifully explained that how Islam wanted to gradually abolish slavery. Abrupt ban on slavery could have resulted in slaves on the street more vulnerable than within the custody of a master.
The way Islam has given incentives to free slaves shows it intention to end slavery.
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:16 amA wife comes into a contract of nikah willingly. The possibilities of rape are low. I’m sure you can understand how the slaves is different when it comes to.
I don’t think the Quran permits rape anywhere and that anyone who rapes their slave would be allowed to do so.
Rather isn’t it very difficult in the case of if a slave is raped to prove it? Wouldn’t it be better to just not allow this relation?
Do you have any videos for me to watch where it is explicitly explained why sex was allowed?
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Munnoo Khan
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:23 amImagine if lady slaves were thrown on the streets in that era. Would you expect a better treatment to her on the street or at her master’s home?
Watch following Mr. Ghamidi’s video:
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:26 amOne does not have to have sex with slaves in order to not throw them out on the streets.
They could have been kept. What is the reason for allowing sex with them?
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Munnoo Khan
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:29 amAgain, your reply within seconds shows that you are not interested in other’s response. Whatch complete Mr. Ghamidi’s video than start asking questions.
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:30 amPlease answer my question instead of questioning my sincerity. I have watched the video
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Munnoo Khan
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:31 amTry to find your answers in that video. Watch it again.
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:31 amI have watched most of these videos before as well and find no answer to my specific question of why sex must be allowed for slaves to not be thrown out on the streets.
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Munnoo Khan
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:33 amAllah ki merzi. Any objection?
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:34 amYou have made it seem like there was a logical reason to this. People I have talked to start to question how kind God truly is if he is allowing these types of scenarios in which rape is very likely
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Faizan Ahmed
Member April 2, 2021 at 9:52 amDo you think sahaba were of a character where they would justify rape or do it? What does treat your slaves like you would like to be treated mean? You need to keep in mind that slaves also had needs. They weren’t married and and it wasn’t possible to get married easily for them. I think it was allowed to prevent nuisance.
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A Hasan
Contributor April 2, 2021 at 9:54 amThe order was also given to marry them off. So they could fulfill their desires. Why the need for the relation with their master? Weren’t there enough slaves to marry them within themselves?
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Faizan Ahmed
Member April 2, 2021 at 10:57 amWas it possible to marry all the slaves? If they all were married, you would have questioned ‘why were they forcefully married’
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A Hasan
Contributor April 5, 2021 at 10:31 pmNot everyone can get married anyway in normal life. And these slaves just had to wait a few years. After all other people have to wait too.
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Shehar Bano
Member May 4, 2021 at 3:35 pmYou might find this video (Slavery & Rape in Islamic Law Q&A with Omar Suleiman) useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sVo_-j2THE
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Shehar Bano
Member May 4, 2021 at 3:53 pmAlso “What Your Right Hands Possess: Islam and Concubinage – Sh. Omar Suleiman” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9be8TkbFShI
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Faisal Khan
Member June 15, 2022 at 2:41 amWhy to own a slave at the first place? Was there shortage of men? Couldn’t slave girls marry a normal man from their place? Your answer would have made sense if there was shortage of men and women had to marry one guy. I don’t think you can prove it statistically.
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Nadeem
Member May 4, 2021 at 6:38 pmI agree with Faizan. Slaves were given utmost respect in Islam and option to be free when they are comfortable . So they were not slaves in the general sense. So there is no question about forceful sex with them if someone was following Islam properly and they would not feel any more pressured than a legal wife.
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Faisal Khan
Member June 15, 2022 at 2:39 amAt the end of the day they are just slaves! Aren’t they? I don’t know how can you be respected as a slave. Do you think people willingly became “sex slaves” do you think any woman on earth would want to be owned by a man for the sake of SEX? I don’t know why you are trying to make it look like they were some respectable people but brother SLAVERY of any kind can never be justified!
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Fatima
Member June 16, 2022 at 1:06 amquraan ye hukum nahi deta ke ghulam aurton se khwahishat puri karo balki khuda ye kahta hai ke jab ye jang me pakdi jaye to tumhary log jo dushmano ke paas ho unky badly,ya fidya de kar ya ahsaanan unhe azad kardo,or jo baat gharo me rahne wale ghulamo ki hai jo jango se pehle mojud the agar unke ander salahiyat deekho to kuch paise de kar karobaar karvado or jo aurte gharo me hai unhe ghar ka member banalo matlab unse nikha karlo ya agar vo azad hona chahy to ahsaanan azad kardo kyunki quraan jagh jagh kehta hai apne mukhatebeen se ke ghulam azad karo ghulam azad karo phir iska kya matlab hua,or uper jo bhi taweely degai hai unhe aam musalmano ke alava koi bhi qubol nahi karega aisa hame lagraha hai shayad ham ghalat hon lekin practically aisa hai nahi islam sary insano ke dilo tak pahuchne ka naam hai agar aisa nahi ho raha hai to hamary samajhne me kahi kami hai isko hamy maan lena chahiye.
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Umer
Moderator June 16, 2022 at 8:44 amAs for Sex Slavery, you can refer to the followoing thread which includes responses by Ghamidi Sahab in this regard. Every one is free to disagree with others point of view but there is no reason to be offensive to others while getting your point across or while diasgreeing with them:
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Farhan Khan
Member November 21, 2024 at 6:51 pmWas it ok to have sex with your female slave? Was it permissible?
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