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  • 6:118-121 Tasmiyyah

    Posted by Ahmad Shoaib on June 15, 2021 at 8:17 am

    (6:118) If you believe in the signs of Allah, eat (the flesh) of that over which Allah’s name has been pronounced.(6:119) And how is it that you do not eat of that over which Allah’s name has been pronounced even though He has clearly spelled out to you what He has forbidden you unless you are constrained to
    (6:120) Abstain from sin, be it either open or secret. Indeed those who commit sins shall surely be requited for all they have done.
    (6:121) Do not eat of (the animal) over which the name of Allah has not been pronounced (at the time of its slaughtering), for that is a transgression. And behold, the evil ones do inspire doubts and objections into the hearts of their friends so that they dispute with you; but if you obey them, you will surely yourselves turn into those who associate others with Allah in His divinity.

    6:118 mentioned eating over that which Allah’s name has been mentioned. Usually this is taken to be meat. But why couldn’t it mean also vegetables, at the time they are being harvested that you have to take the name of Allah. Or fish when they are being fished. What from the ayah negates either of them.
    6:121 says that if the mushrikeen argue with you to eat their food then you will become like them. So this seems to imply that it’s because the food they’re arguing with you to eat has a name of another god mentioned upon it. But I guess the ayah does start of with the command to eat form that which Allah’s name has been mentioned upon it.But the question again arises when is the name being mentioned? If we say it is at the time of slaughter then what evidence is there in the ayah that it doesn’t apply to veg or fish?

    Ahmad Shoaib replied 2 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 19, 2021 at 12:16 am

    Verse 119 tells this is about Tayyaab animals whose flesh is usually consumed, not about all food, the mention of exemption confirms it وَقَدْ فَصَّلَ لَكُم مَّا حَرَّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ and we know that it is only certain kinds of animals which are announced haram.

    The phrase, mention of God’s name on them, is used for mentioning of God’s name on slaughtering of animals, that is why, when not mentioned God’s name, the “food” becomes Fisq. we know, no other food can become fisq if we dont mention God’s name on it.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor June 19, 2021 at 12:19 am

      So if a Hindu, vegetarian, dedicated some food to his baghwan for some tehvaar then we can eat it? It’s only for meat?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 19, 2021 at 12:40 am

    Not to mention on Food God’s name and to mention some god’s name on it are two different things.

    If mentioning of other deities on slaughtered animals make it fisq, and mere slaughtering of an animal on some temple or place of deities make it haram

    وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَأَن تَسْتَقْسِمُوا بِالْأَزْلَامِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ

    even if God’s name is mentioned on it, it obviously implies that any food dedicated to other deities is also fisq and haram.

    see 5:3 for elaboration.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor June 19, 2021 at 12:42 am

      So does the Quranic ayah only apply to meat? That’s what I’m wondering because dhukira is past mabni lilmajhool so if it’s for meat only it’s at time of slaughter- that seems logical. Otherwise if it encompasses veg then that’s a different story

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 19, 2021 at 12:45 am

    Quran is discussing meat here, but also telling the causes of announcing a halal meat haram, that is fisq and rijs. if these elements are found in any other thing the eatable will be haram too.

    • Ahmad Shoaib

      Contributor June 19, 2021 at 12:47 am

      Ok another point is that the Quran says if you eat their food you will become a mushrik. This is because they would have sacrificed to their gods.

      So wouldn’t we understand the ayah’s command of mentioning Allah’s name in relation to this? So if there’s no shirk then it wouldn’t matter if Allah’s name was mentioned or not

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