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  • Decent Dressing: Men And Women

    Posted by Gumiho Ki on August 27, 2021 at 2:10 pm

    If by wearing jeans is considered that men are modest can the same thing(jeans)mean the same for women?Is there any evidence that women should cover their lower part of the body in a different way than men?let s say a skirt instead of trousers.

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Decent Dressing: Men And Women

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad updated 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar August 28, 2021 at 7:32 am

    It is the culture which decides for man and women what to wear. Decency in dress is an established norm in every culture, however, the applied forms of this norm are different in every culture, so every man and woman should follow the norm of decency in their dress.

    Again it is the culture and sense of modesty in human beings which decided different Sattar (essential covering) for man and woman.

    • Gumiho Ki

      Member August 28, 2021 at 10:53 am

      If you live in a country where there are mixed opinion and every family or social group have its own definition of modesty(people wear thobe, suit ,jeans,for men. burqa ,abaya,dresses,trousers,jeans,skirts…for women and all the cases are in big number not few here and there)how someone decide for himself?I am not talking about the parts of body that should be covered but HOW to be covered.I was hoping that there is clear from Islam and sunnah if the expression “be modest”is applying in a different way for women than men(again how ,not which body parts)It seems that the culture dictate the rule.I did not knew that.Anyhow,in a mixed one like I explained above how u make your decision.?

    • Nadeem Minhas

      Member August 28, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      I think culture can slightly skew the norms on modesty, but basics remain the same. If someone is dressing intentionally to look sexy and to attract opposite gender inappropriately and people around think she/he looks sexy, then it is an inapprobriate dress or inappropriate makeup.

      Normally it is when a dress is too short or too tight and when makeup is too heavy to significantly alter a person’s face.

    • Gumiho Ki

      Member August 28, 2021 at 2:20 pm

      But,Nadeem,is not the attraction between different genders always there?Regardless of what you wear? When you say to dress modestly y0u mean to dress in such a way that you will not create sexual feellings in the opposite gender minds?beCause one may notice and admire a beautiful woman or a handsome man without necessarily thinking sexually.

    • Nadeem Minhas

      Member August 28, 2021 at 6:44 pm

      Yes that is correct Gumiho:

      One is respectable attraction. The first thought is not of sexual nature. The attraction is of long term without a specific purpose behind it. When you see such person and talk to the person, you like their company, you like to talk to them. You like and respect the person. Although if both continue seeing each other; especially in private then it will end up where it shouldn’t end up without marriage. That is why Islam doesn’t’ allow meeting in Private or discussing inappropriate topic. For such person more likely you would not outright reject any possibility of marrying him/her…at least initially.

      The other attraction is where the first thought is of sexual nature. Such thought lacks the respect for that person. Such attraction is of temporary nature and for short period just to accomplish a specific desire. For such person more likely you would outright reject any possibility of marrying him/her…at least initially.

  • Nadeem Minhas

    Member August 28, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    Also add if a person’s clothes are partially see through or hair are significantly altered or decorated.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar August 30, 2021 at 11:41 am

    Single uniform dressing or ideas about decency is never meant , nor should we desire for that. Every society is a mixed society now, people from different cultures live together. Every culture has its own demonstration of decency in dress. So let them choose the way they like to dress up with decency.

    Even a person in a decent dress is subject to attraction, especially, for a person of different culture, who might find it somewhat sextually attractive, but we have to bear it and educate them to stay modest and safeguard their gaze and honour.

    In the time of the prophet, a beautiful woman came to the prophet and asked some questions on the occasion of Hajj. A young man standing with the prophet stated staring at her. The prophet turned his face away, and he had to do it more than once.

    • Gumiho Ki

      Member August 30, 2021 at 12:44 pm

      Then ,he/she should dress modestly according to him and if anyone is attracted to him/her should lower gaze.?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar August 30, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Yes. You are right

  • Nadeem Minhas

    Member August 30, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    I do not advocate a single uniform, but Allah has clearly defined what is modesty and what to hide. There are some areas of human body that are universally attractive.

    If modesty is entirely relative and based upon the opinion of a few then there is nothing wrong with a nudists colony.

    • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

      Scholar September 2, 2021 at 10:07 am

      When we talk about standards, we always take the general standards. Human beings in every society and in every civilization has very clear distinction about modesty. We have entertainment industry in every part of the world, still no society ever considered their norms of dressing and fashion as modest.

      Exceptional or abnormal segments of societies are always have their own distinctive ways, they are never accepted as general, modest trends of a society.

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