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  • Breaking Down Human Existence Into Physical, Aesthetic, And Moral

    Posted by Jawad Zafar on October 1, 2021 at 8:01 pm

    Hello and Asalamoalaikum Ghamidi Sahab.

    In one of your lectures while describing free will you mentioned 3 forms of existence.

    1. Jismani Wajood, 2. Jamaliati Wajood and 3 Ikhlaki Wajood.

    Could you please explain how did you distinguish and separated these 3 forms of existence. Is it through your observation and experience or does Quran mentions it anywhere?

    Also you mentioned that Allah said that He will not interfere in the free will of the humans or jinns. Could you please also guide where in Quran it mentions that Allah will not interfere in the free will of humans and jinns when Allah says nothing can happen without His will and Muslims always say Inshallah before taking even a simple action.

    Umer replied 2 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Breaking Down Human Existence Into Physical, Aesthetic, And Moral

    Umer updated 2 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator October 1, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    The argument about existence is an intellectual analysis of human being based on empirical evidence.

    Since you didn’t share the video reference with a time stamp, I can’t comment on what context Ghamidi sahab would have made a comment regarding free will. Of course, everything happens with God’s will according to His laws, however, He has also given us free will in domains where He doesn’t compel us to anything. For example, the Quran verse 18:29 states that God has given us the truth; now whoever wishes can believe and whoever wishes can deny.

  • Umer

    Moderator October 2, 2021 at 4:03 am

    Break down of a human existence in comparison to animals has been described by Ghamidi Sahab as:

    1) ‘Aqli Wajud’

    2) ‘Ikhlaqi Wajud’

    3) ‘Jamaliyati His’

    This is primarily based on observation of human beings and what differentiates them from animals, and as per Ghamidi Sahab, these are the three factors which distinguish a human being from an animal; all other factors are the same between these two except for the three mentioned above.

    Since the primary objective of religion is success on the day of judgement, therefore Quran’s primary and core subject-matter is preparation for that day and how can one succeed there; therefore it doesn’t give a breakdown of human nature in this context. However, Quran has given a hint to this fact when explaining process of human creation and introduction of ‘Nafkh-e-ruh’ as the last process which gave human beings faculty of hearing, sight and feeling:

    الَّذِیْ أَحْسَنَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ خَلَقَهُ وَبَدَأَ خَلْقَ الْإِنْسَانِ مِنْ طِيْنٍ. ثُمَّ جَعَلَ نَسْلَهُ مِنْ سُلَالَةٍ مِّنْ مَّآءٍ مَّهِيْنٍ. ثُمَّ سَوَّاهُ وَنَفَخَ فِيْهِ مِنْ رُّوحِهِ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ قَلِيْلًا مَّا تَشْكُرُوْنَ.

    [It is He] Who has excelled in the creation of everything. He began creating a human being from clay; then carried on his progeny from an insignificant fluid; then perfected it and blew into it from His spirit and for you made ears [for hearing], eyes [for seeing] and hearts [for understanding] – seldom are you grateful. (Quran 32:7-9)

    Since success on the day of judgement primarily depends upon belief in God and good deeds, which primarily includes ikhlaqi tazkiya, therefore Quran has discussed the basis of ethics as well i.e. from where does it come from:

    وَنَفْسٍ وَمَا سَوَّاهَا فَأَلْهَمَهَا فُجُورَهَا وَتَقْوَاهَا قَدْ أَفْلَحَ مَنْ زَكَّاهَا وَقَدْ خَابَ مَنْ دَسَّاهَا (91: 7-10)

    And the soul bears witness and the perfection given to it, then [God] inspired it with its evil and its good that he succeeded who purified it and he failed who corrupted it. (91:7-10)

    For details, please see: Discussion 37158

    Regarding nature (fitrat) of a human being, following episodes might be of interest to you:

    Discussion 30094

    Regarding freewill, In addition to the primary point as pointed out by Faisal Sahab, following responses by Ghamidi Sahab will also add further insight into the matter:

    Discussion 1473

    Discussion 37854 • Reply 37860

    Discussion 37854 • Reply 37859

    Discussion 37854 • Reply 37861

    Please also refer to the video below from 1:09:56 to 1:19:18

  • Umer

    Moderator October 2, 2021 at 4:12 am

    Regarding saying of Inshallah and Mashallah, they are expression of our eman (faith) that ultimately everything happens with the will of Allah and if Allah wills, He can put a halt to all the physical laws working in this world.

    Please refer to the link below from 14:17 to 15:38

    ilm-o-Hikmat 24-04-2016


    PS: In future, please post questions of different nature as separate questions.

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