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  • Hadith That Two Muslims Fighting To Kill Eachother Will Both Go To Hell

    Posted by Arsalan Riaz on October 14, 2021 at 2:57 am

    Narrated Al-Ahnaf bin Qais: While I was going to help this man (‘Ali Ibn Abi Talib), Abu Bakra met me and asked, “Where are you going?” I replied, “I am going to help that person.” He said, “Go back for I have heard Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) saying, ‘When two Muslims fight (meet) each other with their swords, both the murderer as well as the murdered will go to the Hell-fire.’ I said, ‘O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! It is all right for the murderer but what about the murdered one?’ Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) replied, “He surely had the intention to kill his companion.”
    Sahih al-Bukhari 31https://sunnah.com/bukhari:31

    If this Hadith is true in its literal sense then it means that Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Muawiya are both in hellfire ( nauzubillah). Also Hazrat Ayesha and other notable sahaba who fought in the battles of Camel and Siffin.

    Umer replied 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Hadith That Two Muslims Fighting To Kill Eachother Will Both Go To Hell

    Umer updated 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
  • Saiyed juned Alimiya

    Member October 14, 2021 at 3:26 am

    BBhai Allah aakhirat me fesala karega, ye hadis aam muslim ke liye ho sakti he, aesa isliye ke sahabase jaha galtiya huyi he to unke bare quran me Allah razi huwa unse ye bhi he, sayad ab tak Tradinal way ummat ka yahi raha he

    • Arsalan Riaz

      Member October 14, 2021 at 3:23 pm

      Shouldn’t the sahaba be held to more strict standards than common Muslims because they were directly taught by the Holy prophet (pbuh)? Two common Muslims fighting each other can be forgiven but how can we expect the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) to fight wars against each other ?

  • Umer

    Moderator October 14, 2021 at 4:59 pm

    Any isolated narration attributed to the Prophet Muhammad (sws) should never be used as a souce of law and in an absolute sense, unless it’s validity has been studied in the light of Quran and Sunnah and all related narrations have been studied in this regard.

    As a refresher, please refer to the following Principles of Understanding the Hadith:

    Discussion 56230

    In Quran, the matter of two Muslim Groups fighting has been disussed in Chapter 49:

    وَإِنْ طَائِفَتَانِ مِنْ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ اقْتَتَلُوا فَأَصْلِحُوا بَيْنَهُمَا فَإِنْ بَغَتْ إِحْدَاهُمَا عَلَى الْأُخْرَى فَقَاتِلُوا الَّتِي تَبْغِي حَتَّى تَفِيءَ إِلَى أَمْرِ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ فَاءَتْ فَأَصْلِحُوا بَيْنَهُمَا بِالْعَدْلِ وَأَقْسِطُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ إِخْوَةٌ فَأَصْلِحُوا بَيْنَ أَخَوَيْكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ )

    And if two parties or groups among the believers start fighting, then make peace between them both. But if one of them outrages against the other, then fight you against the one which outrages until it complies with the decision of God. Then if it complies, make reconciliation between them justly, and be equitable because God loves those who are the equitable. The believers are brothers to one another. So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allah that you may receive mercy. (49:9-10)

    If we look at other Ahadith touching similar topic, we come to know that these ahadith are discussing such application in the presence / absence of Nazm-e-Ijtimae of Muslims (Established State). Following are other Ahadith which give us a complete picture in this regard:

    مَنْ رَأَى مِنْ أَمِيرِهِ شَيْئًا يَكْرَهُهُ فَلْيَصْبِرْ عَلَيْهِ فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ فَارَقَ الْجَمَاعَةَ شِبْرًا فَمَاتَ إِلَّا مَاتَ مِيتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً

    He who sees something despicable in his ruler should bear it, for he who even slightly disassociates himself from the state authority and dies in this condition shall die the death of jahiliyyah. (Al-Bukhari, Al-Jami‘ al-sahih, 1217, (no. 7054).

    On one occasion, regarding this issue, the Prophet (sws), on these very grounds, is reported to have told Hudhayfah (rta): تَلْزِمُ جمَاعَةَ اْلمُسْلِمِينَ وَ اِمَامَهُم ([in such a state of chaos], you should remain attached to the state authority and to the ruler of the Muslims. Hudhayfah (rta) said: If they have no (such thing as the) main body and have no leader? Prophet (sws) said: Separate yourself from all these factions, though you may have to eat the roots of trees (in a jungle) until death comes to you and you are in this state.(https://sunnah.com/muslim:1847a).

    It has been narrated on the authority of Arfaja who said: I have heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: Different evils will make their appearance in the near future. Anyone who tries to disrupt the affairs of this Umma while they are united you should strike him with the sword whoever he be. (If remonstrance does not prevail with him and he does not desist from his disruptive activities, he is to be killed.) (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1852a)

    Prophet (sws) also said: He who swears allegiance to a Caliph should give him the piedge of his hand and the sincerity of his heart (i. e. submit to him both outwardly as well as inwardly). He should obey him to the best of his capacity. It another man comes forward (as a claimant to Caliphate), disputing his authority, they (the Muslims) should behead the latter. (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1844a)

    And

    It has been narrated on the authority of Aba Sa’id al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When oath of allegiance has been taken for two caliphs, kill the one for whom the oath was taken later. (https://sunnah.com/muslim:1853)

    In Quran, it has been ordered to fight against the Muslim group if that group acts outrageously and injustly. Similarly, In some Ahadith, as you can see, it has been ordered to kill another Muslim if he tries to disrupt Nazam-i-Ijtimae of Muslims. But in the absence of such Nazam-e-ijtimae and the presence of Choas, Prophet (sws) forbade killing of other Muslims (as mentioned in the Hadith quoted by you and the one narrated by Hudhayfah (rta)). Regarding groups of Sahaba including Ali (rta), Muawiya (rta) and Aisha (rta), they were all seeing the same situation with different perspectives; and one group believed the other to be acting outrageously and injustly, therefore, in their ijtihaad, they were in all honsety trying to do the right thing. Some individual Sahaba on the other hand, thought that situation to be the one without Nazam-e-iIjtimae of Muslims and therefore, stayed away from that chaos and according to them, the Hadith quoted by you in the question had to be applied in that situation.

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