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  • God & Polytheism (Arguments Of Ghamidi Sahab Against Polytheism)

    Posted by Abdullah AbdulRahman on November 15, 2021 at 3:32 am

    Assalamualaikum

    Is there any video of Ghamidi sahab in which he proves logically that i)having partners in creation(or more than one God) is wrong. ii)and why having son or wife( family) is not befitting to God?

    Umer replied 2 years ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • God & Polytheism (Arguments Of Ghamidi Sahab Against Polytheism)

    Umer updated 2 years ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator November 15, 2021 at 7:27 am

    Please refer to the video below from 4:54 to 6:48

    https://youtu.be/o_0bAtQvVrk?t=294

  • Umer

    Moderator December 8, 2021 at 2:12 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 17:36 to 21:51 and from 26:03 to 28:35

    https://youtu.be/zEO80jAY-bM?t=1056

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 9, 2021 at 10:15 am

    So why having son or family is not befitting to God?

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 9, 2021 at 3:22 pm
  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 11, 2021 at 9:05 am

    First Quran says that if there is any writ then bring it forward.In New testament John 1:1 “In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God”, or anyone can write and bring a book saying that God has revealed it on him.This is and can be a written evidence, what about the claim of Quran?

    And secondly i am asking that logically why it is not befitting to God to have a son or family?

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 20, 2021 at 1:44 am

    Thank you

  • Deleted User 7113

    Member December 20, 2021 at 3:33 am

    It depends on concept of God. God is not humanoid. That’s why he can’t have offsprings. He doesn’t have a body like humans. You can’t comprehend how God looks like. Anyone who can have offsprings can’t be God. If God had a body and offsprings then question will arise who created God and this question will have no end.

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 20, 2021 at 6:38 am

    But the thing is not of need.Like He doesn’t need anyone’s help.But still He has appointed angels who get His work done.So argument still remains there that why it is not befitting to God to have a son or a family?

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 20, 2021 at 9:55 am

    The only reason why we believe that God doesn’t have any children is because God Himself has told us so.

    As humans our knowledge is limited (Quran 17:85) and if we were to know anything about the reality of God, it must come from God Himself. Had God told us that He had children then we had no way to ascertain that He didn’t and we would have had to believe that. However, His claim is that He is One, and doesn’t have any children or partners. In Quran 37:156-157 God asks polytheists to produce an evidence in the form of a previous scripture if they are true in their beliefs. Similarly, Quran 5:116 narrates how a similar justification will be required from Christians on the Day of Judgement. In other words, if we’re to form any ideas about God they must be grounded in evidence-based true knowledge.

    It’s not correct to make any assumptions regarding God, even whether or not He has a body or whether an entity who has offsprings could be God. Forming unfounded ideas about God is the ‘very mistake’ that many have made and ended up with deviations.

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 20, 2021 at 11:05 am

    But logically excluding any argument of religion(that because God has said in Quran)?

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 20, 2021 at 11:14 am

    Logic or syllogism can only be applied to concepts that are within the boundaries of human knowledge, not matters that transcend those boundaries. The reality of God, angels, afterlife, paradise, and hell are some examples of concepts that we have no way to verify or falsify, hence we are supposed to only stick with knowledge that we have been provided by God and His prophets.

  • Deleted User 7113

    Member December 20, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    Can light have a son or family? Can heat have a son or family? Only living matters can have family. There is nothing like God nor God is like anything. There is no example which can be given about God. If you read history sons have killed their fathers to become king. If God had a son, he could have overthrown God and becomes himself God. Then God could have died also. These things occur in humans or animals. God is not human. He is not a matter too and he is not living in the sense we are living thing. So birth death family about God is out of question. We can’t imagine how God looks like. Angels are creatures of God and work force, and not a partner. Like you have robots.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 20, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    Sorry but any examples one cites from within this material world will fall short of any validity test in reference to concepts that transcend the bounds of human knowledge. That’s the reason why one must not suppose anything regarding God and limit their knowledge to what God Himself has revealed.

    • Deleted User 7113

      Member December 22, 2021 at 7:30 am

      You are 100% right. No example can be given for God from this world. “La misala lah” “la misla Lahu”. I just gave examples to say that everything can not have offsprings. Only animal and plants which are called living in our sense can have offsprings.

  • Abdullah AbdulRahman

    Member December 21, 2021 at 10:50 am

    So how would you say that trinity is wrong? God is not in three forms?(logically)

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 21, 2021 at 11:23 am

    Please read my responses above.

  • Umer

    Moderator June 29, 2022 at 5:44 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 7:57 to 19:34

    https://youtu.be/JEHXKMcScDk?t=477

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