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  • Obedience Of Someone Other Than Allah And His Prophets

    Umer updated 2 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator November 22, 2021 at 3:06 am

    There is no such thing as ‘Ataat‘ of someone other than Allah and his prophet, and that ‘Ataat‘ is itself done after one believes in Allah and his Prophet based on logic and reasoning.

    Usually incident of Khizar and Musa (sws) has been used as an example of ‘Ataat‘ outside the circle of Allah and his Prophets. However, this incident has been misunderstood and taken out of context for the most part.

    For further details and comments of Ghamidi Sahab, please refer to the video below from 19:02 to 24:41

    https://youtu.be/yYtjF8W9AG8?t=1142

  • Muhammad

    Member November 22, 2021 at 4:53 am

    Thanks

  • Muhammad

    Member November 22, 2021 at 5:05 am

    What about the obedience ofاولی الامر

    • Umer

      Moderator November 22, 2021 at 5:30 am

      يَاأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُوْلِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ فَإِنْ تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِنْ كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ذَلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا (59:4)

      Believers! Obey God and obey the Prophet and those of you who are in authority, and if you disagree among yourselves in any matter, refer it to God and the Prophet if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is better and more seemly as regards the consequences. (Quran 4:59)

      This directive was given to the Muslims when the Quran was being revealed and the Prophet (sws) was present among them. Consequently, they had the opportunity to refer back all their disagreements to him whenever they wanted. Obviously, since the authority of Allah and His Prophet (sws) is eternal, therefore in all affairs in which an eternal directive has been given by them, it is now incumbent upon those in authority whether they are the rulers or members of the parliament to submit to them forever. The orders and directives of these rulers can only be carried out subsequent to obeying Allah and His Prophet (sws), and only if they do not overrule or exceed the limits adjudicated by Allah and His Prophet (sws). Therefore, Muslims cannot enact any law in their country which is contrary to the Quran and Sunnah or without taking into consideration the guidance these sources provide. The believers indeed have a right to disagree with those in authority, but they cannot disagree with Allah and His Prophet (sws). In fact, in any disagreement between believers, the decision must be made in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah.

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