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Splashes When Relieving Oneself
splashes of istinja are impure..?
after urinating I feel splashes are coming back to my hands and feet .when I do istinja does the splashes of istinja are impure . I used tissue than I poured water in toilet seat than I pour water on my private parts and I feel splashes are coming back to my hands and feet does this splashes make impure my feet and hand and wherever this splashes tauch my body or clothes …? please reply what ustad ghamidi sab says about this kind of issues
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Splashes When Relieving Oneself
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Please refer to the response by Dr. Irfan Shahzad Sahab to a similar question:
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@UmerQureshi sab toh iska matlab me kya samju istinja karte waqt us pani ke agar chite kapdo par lag jaye toh dhona zaroori hei ya isme koi rules nehi bataya gaya hei …?
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The point being that we are not expected to stay filthy on purpose; as far as matters involving doubt or person’s own judgement are concerned, one has to use their best judgement. For instance, if you’re sure about a splashback then you can wash the affected area and when it is just a doubt, you don’t need to bother.
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@UmerQureshi sab thank u
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So this means that If someone is performing istinja with clean water and this water hits the private area and then splashes onto the clothes, it is not necessary that impurity has touched the clothes? Unless there is some kind of certainty that there was urine in the splash of water that hit the clothes? JazakAllah!
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Yes.
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Sorry Mr. Umer Qureshi,
I just want to clarify a point here. Even if urine were to be in a splash of water that hit the clothes, in all likelihood it would be a very negligible amount so it could have been ignored anyway. Correct? This is regarding my post above.
JazakAllah
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You could say that, but I’d prefer more of a certainty approach instead of negligible approach i.e. If you’re certain of an impurity then clean it; in case of doubt or uncertainty, ignore it.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
But bottom line being that religion doesn’t burden us to clean ourselves in both the case of uncertainty, as well as microscopic impurity. Correct? I know we’ve been through this a bunch of times, but just to reiterate.
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Yes, this is correct.
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Sorry Mr. Umer Qureshi, I just want to clarify a point of yours here. So when you said “I’d prefer more of a certainty approach instead of negligible approach”, you weren’t doubting the fact that water splashing off of urine will most probably be microscopic? But just that it makes more sense to go off of certainty because we don’t even know if water splashed off urine to begin with. Correct?
And also, if I am unsure if water splashing off urine contains microscopic impurity or not, due to this uncertainty, I should still assume it is microscopic. Correct?
However, it’s hard to imagine the impurity not being microscopic in water that splashes off of impurity. Hope I’m correct here too?
JazakAllah
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It is just a way of putting things so that no confusion arises, for instance, if you’re certain of its existence e.g. you’re certain of a splashback and the area affected by it too, then its better to wash the affected area. Because if it’s microscopic, then it logically follows that one is not certain of its existence. The end result would be the same in both instances.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
Yes, this makes a lot of sense.
In this case, it makes sense that logically one could not be certain of the existence in case of it being microscopic.
However, as we discussed that in a general sense, even when one is certain that water has passed over impurity, but the impurity in this water is not detectable, then it is microscopic (for sure) and not something that warrants cleaning. Just to confirm.
JazakAllah
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yes, that is correct.
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@UmerQureshi toh agar istinja ya toilet me defecate ke time agar agar us pani ke cheithein kapdo par lag jaye aur napaki ke sath Pak pani mix ho jaye toh kya woh chitein napak nehi hota…? kyki jitna bhi ehtiat karle chitein toh lag hee jate hei aur bar bar kapdo ko dhona unta asan bhi nehi hota…
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Waisay is tarah sai cheetain nhi lagti hoten har bar, zayada tar is main shak ka pehlu hi karfarma hota hai. Agar shak hai toh us par zayada tawajjo nhi daine chaiyai aur ignore karna chaiyai, aur agar yaqeen hai toh phir sirf us jagah ko dhoo lain jahan cheetain lagi hon.
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Asalamualaikum Mr. Umer Qureshi,
I know you said that one must be certain of splashes and ignore doubts – so I realize it’s difficult to even encounter the following situation. But, if one is performing istinjaa and feels an impure splash on their left hand from the toilet bowl, is it fair to think that as one continues with ‘normal washing’ then the left hand will be washed in the process too? Please let me know if it’s not clear what I’m asking.
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*Also, I’m talking about the back of the left hand (i.e., one we wash with) being hit with an impure splash.
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Yes I understand and I agree, it will too be washed in the process.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
When it comes to being certain about impure splashes, I generally follow the rule that if I’m uncertain about whether the impurity remains on me after I have washed myself, then I am clean. For example, if I am uncertain as to whether normal washing has removed any splashes, whether from istinjaa or defecating or otherwise, then I assume that I don’t need to do anything extra in cleaning myself. Is this a good approach for a person to use in general? I find it makes life easier for me as I’m not as fixated in performing washroom-related activities, which I think is good, since most people don’t really seem to make these matters the central part of their lives to an unhealthy degree. Any thoughts?
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There’s nothing wrong with this approach.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
I’m just worried if it doesn’t come off as sincere. But I think it does when I consider the widespread applicability of the principle of certainty. I’m not sure.
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@Haseeb All this is the doubt of us which is causing us trouble unnecessarily.
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Insha’Allah things will work out for both of you. Just follow the basic guidelines in this regard which fulfil both the requirements of religion and don’t give room to any doubts in this regard. You shouldn’t question sincerity of your efforts in this regard. No conscious muslim ever goes through all this trouble becasue he is insincere.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
It’s really nice of you to say that to us! But like you said before, no problem if I ask you more questions/open new thread to clarify few doubts, right?
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Sure, no problem.
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Asalamualaikum Mr. Umer Qureshi,
I was wondering if the above is a good approach for a person in general – that if a person are uncertain as to whether impurity remains, whether that’s during ghusl or while performing istinjaa to clean the tip of the private part after urinating or for anything else, then a person can consider themselves finished in cleaning themselves?
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Usually this kind of thing does not make too much problem for people in general, as most of the times people are correct in concluding whether they have attained purity or not. But if someone is having too many doubts in this regard, then this is the best approach to follow. Just clean yourselves the way you normally do and you are clean. Ignore the uncertainty, if any. And no need to fixate on uncertainty or to verify it unnecessarily.
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JazakAllah Mr. Umer Qureshi,
Yes, that makes sense.
But is there anything objectionable to a person adopting this approach even if they do not have doubts with regards to impurity?
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Nothing objectionable in my opinion.
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Okay, makes sense. But from you’re wrote above, what I basically understood is that people already have an innate understanding of how to maintain purity, which probably explains why others haven’t asked questions on this topic in detail like I have. They know how to maintain purity, as well as which measures entail hardship in doing so and should therefore be avoided.
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@Haseeb brother Ignore these things and always ignore the doubts and always I walked on certainty, I used to get bogged down in similar problems and OCD with this , now I ignore these things.
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Asalamualaikum Ashif Bhai,
I appreciate you writing this to me! Yes, you are absolutely right. One should ignore these doubts to avoid unnecessary trouble. Actually, Mr. Umer Qureshi has already laid out the majority of the framework for me in terms of how to approach daily tasks. So, Alhamdullilah, life is much, much easier for me than a few months earlier. I try to apply this framework in my daily life as best as I can, even if there are doubts. But I prefer to clarify the doubt here, since I have a tendency to assume that I am in the wrong if I am doing something in an ‘easier’ way. I know ignoring the doubts is an option, but my observation is that they are going away slowly as the ‘framework’ becomes more and more ingrained in my mind. So, for me, this seems to be a better option than ignoring the doubts altogether. However, I will definitely keep your advice in mind so that I can avoid hardship! JazakAllah!
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☺️I have also just started this method, I am having some problems, maybe it will be for a few days but hope everything will be fine soon inshallah
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InshAllah everything will become easier for you and I! I really appreciate your commitment to Islam. I think it takes a lot of courage and character to confront one’s obstacles. I treat it like a test that will be over soon enough. And even if it isn’t, we know that Allah SWT is the most merciful and compassionate, so we do not need to worry as long as we’re honest in our intentions. And I have no reason to believe that you are not honest in your intentions.
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@UmerQureshi bhai @Haseeb bhai
Thank you both and may Allah bless you both in your knowledge and practice and keep you safe from the Satan
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JazakAllah Ashif Bhai!
Same for you!
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