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  • Ahmadis And Government Of Pakistan

    Posted by Shahab Ahmad on December 19, 2021 at 4:54 am

    If government should not interfere in the religion of the people then why Ghamidi sahib never comments about the government of Pakistan declaring Qadianis or Ahmadis as non Muslims in their constitution. Could he please share his views about targeted persecution of this sect by the state of Pakistan?

    Faisal Haroon replied 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Ahmadis And Government Of Pakistan

    Faisal Haroon updated 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 19, 2021 at 9:29 am

    Ghamidi sahab has never stated that a government should not interfere in the religion of its people. What he has explained is that in a nation state all people regardless of their religion are equal.

    With that said, Ghamidi sahab is probably the only Pakistani religious scholar who has been very outspoken about the persecution of Ahmadis for a very long time.

    Hopefully the following short videos will help:

    https://youtu.be/gups1UNjhtE

    https://youtu.be/u6kR5qIHIIU

    • Shahab Ahmad

      Member December 19, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      So are you of the opinion that Ghamidi sahib thinks that declaring someone Muslim or non Muslim is responsibility of the government ? He clearly states that government should not interfere in personal matters of individual. Please refer to the recent talk about Saudi government.

      https://youtu.be/ohC4RN0FP6w

      Please convey this question up to the scholar himself so he should clear his views on government declaring any citizen Muslim or non Muslim regardless of his or her beliefs.

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator December 19, 2021 at 3:58 pm

      Your question specifically stated religion, not personal matters and that’s what I responded to along with videos of Ghamidi sahab. A government led by Muslims does have the right to enforce certain religious injunctions. For example, the government has the right to enforce zakat upon it’s Muslim citizens. Also please refer to the following for Ghamidi sahab’s direct comments in this matter:

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  • Umer

    Moderator December 19, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    Ghamidi Sahab has a very clear stance in this issue.

    Please refer to the video below from 1:25:15 to 1:32:06

    https://youtu.be/H6VN-tW-wGk?t=5115

  • Umer

    Moderator December 19, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 46:25 to 48:17

    https://youtu.be/kh-kRZP6g1U?t=2785

  • Umer

    Moderator December 19, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    Please also refer to the video below from 1:07:47 to 1:17:31

    https://youtu.be/zF3HidhModM?t=4067

  • Shahab Ahmad

    Member December 20, 2021 at 6:15 am

    https://youtu.be/rZmbTvkTCgE 12:30 onwards

    It clearly shows that Islamic government can only implement 2 matters. Namaz and zakat. Nothing else

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator December 20, 2021 at 11:00 am

    That is correct in regards to ijabi (positive) legislation.

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