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Covering Adornments Like Hair Dye, Hair Styles, Bangles & Other Hair Adornments
Kya girls Ka hair dye Karna zeenat ki category me Aata he ??
Mean unn Ka natural hair colour black he but unho ne uss ko brown colour lagaya ho
And jab girl ne Hair dye kiye ho tab uss ke liye dye hair ko cover Karna laazmi ho ga ??
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Covering Adornments Like Hair Dye, Hair Styles, Bangles & Other Hair Adornments
updated 1 year, 8 months ago
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Is ka faisla AP nay or AP Kay mahool or culture ko krna hai kay kia ye zeenat main ata hai ya nahi.
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Agar is say extra attention milti hai jesay key zeenat ki baqi cheezon main hota hai to ye zeenat hai or agr ye normal hai to zeenat nahi.
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Sir aaj Kal Tu ye Normal culture ban chuka he hamari society me. Tu Kya Abb larki apne dye hair open Kar sakti he open Kar sakti he
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As I told you this is what you and your culture has to decide.
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@Irfan76 Assalam o Alaikum!
ittefaq se mene abhi yahi sawal pocha tha or ye post samne aa gai magar apka jawab hazam ni hua ke culture faisla kre ga to agar me ak ese qabele me dakhil hu jao jaha jhoot bolna neki ka kam ban gya hu so ab jhoot gunah ni rahe ga kia?? esa ni he jesa k apne kaha culture faisla kre ga so ap Quran ke mizaaj se batae jaha Quran kehta h ke phero ki chankar bi na sunai de so uswkt yahi sb zeenat hua krta tha aj ke dor me extra material ke ilawa usi baalo me mukhtalif dye laga kr itni attention huti per hum kia kahe ye b ni k jhoot bolna aam.h to jhoot jhoot ni raha…..
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Human nature can never allow falsehood to be acceptable. It never happened in human history. No matter how much obscenity becomes common, human nature never call it good. When it is said the culture will decide, it means the decent standards of culture, which may be violated at a large scale but are still they are considered as decent standards.
And when we talk about culture it means civilized world. If some savage tribe has lost its humanity or civility this is a disorder needs to be corrected. The whole civilized humanity has the same basic moral standards in addition to the guidance of its nature because they have the same origin from Adam and Eve and learnt these standards from the tradition of the prophets for a long time.
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And sir agar larki ne without Kisi extra material like flowers, jewellery ke bagair Apne baalo ko banaya hoa he
I mean comb kiye hoe he jaise larki Apne baalo ko different style se banati he without extra material ke jaise flowers, jewellery ke bagair . Tu Kya ye without Extra material ke hair styles ko wo open Kar sakti he Gair mehram ke saamne??
Jaise iss picture me hair style he without any extra material like flowers jewellery etc
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This seems beautification and not zeenat which is supposed to be covered. After all have to tie your hair.
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Sir jo me aap ki baat samjha ho wo ye he
Ye girls ke different hair style beautification he, zeenat Nahi he
Tu iss ko cover Karna laazmi Nahi he
Am I right??
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Yes.
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Sir I have one question
According to Javed Ghamdi Sahab Zeenat me unn cheezo ko cover Karna laazmi Nahi Jo unn me se khuli Hoti he
But Sir girls ke Hair bhi Tu khule hote he
Tu phir Head ki zeenat like Jewellery Cover Karna Kyu laazmi he??
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Zeenat is a source of extra attention. Jewellery is zeenat needs to be covered
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Sir Hand ki Jo zeenat he like bracelet, bangles, watches Etc
and face ki zeenat like Ear rings inn ko cover Karna laazmi he Kya ??
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No. They are usually exposed and may stay exposed. Even a head zeenat if culturally stays exposed it can stay exposed
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Sir but Mene Javed gahmdi Sahab ki vedio Dekhi thi unho ne kha tha head ki zeenat cover Karna laazmi he
Wo illa maa Zahra Minha me Nahi aati??
But culture wise Dekha Jaye Tu head ki zeenat , haato ki zeenat like bangles, bracelets open Hoti he ??
Tu javed Ghamdi Sahab ke head ki zeenat ko cover Karne ke point of view ke baare me Thora sa guide Kar de ??
Javed ghamdi Sahab ki 23 response wali series me veil ke topic episode 10 ki 52:46 to 54:46 tak Javed Ghamdi Sahab ne head ki zeenat ko cover Karne Ka kha he .. iss ke baare me Thora sa guide Kar de sir
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Usually head adornment is considered to be covered. But still it is the cultural norms which decide that a certain zeenat is to be covered for decency or it may left exposed without violating decency. Till date to cover head zeenat is advised.
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Sir but hum weddings me, Kuch aur Functions me dekthe he 90% girls ne head ki zeenat open ki Hoti he, Tu culture wise dekha Jaye , Tu ye open Hoti he Normal functions me , weddings functions me , normally jobs par bhi.
Aap Thora sa guide Kar de jab ye culture ho Jo explain Kiya he
Tab girls Ka head ki zeenat open Karna koi gunah Tu Nahi he kya ??
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what the majority is doing is not a criterion. the common decent standard norm of the society and the person himself or herself has to decide that something is culturally accepted as normal to be exposed or it is to be covered. we see the majority of women in wedding do not cover their adornments on their chest area too, but still, it is not allowed.
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Sir I disagree with this point of view. Here are the points that make me think less logic in this p.o.v.
1)first of all, If extra attention is concerned, then the face attracts 100times more than the hair. As far as every culture and human nature is concerned, it is universally accepted that people are generally attracted towards those who look good and there is nothing wrong in saying that Face plays the biggest role in appearance. So if extra attention is concerned then it should be advisable to cover the face rather than the hair. Generally, No one will ever be attracted to a person who has a beautiful hair but not has a attractive face.
2)Secondly, If I understood perfectly, then extra attention is not concerned but sexual attraction is concerned specifically. So opinion of ghamidi sahab regarding the adornment on chest seems logical because chest of a women is a sexual part and that is why it is not allowed.
And Hair is by no means a sexual part. There is even some possibility of being sexually attracted by the face but not by the hair. The reason is face has the ability to express.
3)thirdly, you said majority is not the criterion. If this is not the criteria then what is the criteria?. I understand that majority or minority is not a 100% criterion but in this matter it plays a major role which can be qualified as a criteria. When we say social norms we mean the actual norm of the society/place. And norm of the society is not created by minority but majority. And majority of people generally follows the standard norm. Example:- If we say the society is a muslim society then we refer to the existence of Muslim majority in that particular society.
So in this way majority plays a major role for a person to decide because in this matter choice is given to decide.
Now, why is society not 100% the criteria? The reason is above society there is Quran. Even if something is normal in the majority in the society but Quran prohibited it so the word of quran is the only authority. But as you said in this matter choice is given, so there is no wrong in taking decision by considering the norm of the society and norm is formed by the majority of people.
And It is the person who will decide, so she can take any factor into consideration while deciding. And even if the decision proves to be wrong, she won’t be held accountable because according to your opinion in this case she had the choice to decide by being honest to herself.
4)fourthly, most Importantly I believe that there would be no need to discuss this matter if we only follow what has been told.
Like, if there is such a need to cover the hair, why quran has not said anything explicity in this matter.
We agree that Allah has said clearly stated everything in quran about what do do and what not not to do. And Quran is the only authority. So clearly, Allah has not said anything to cover the head but it was the bossom which was asked to be covered with the extra cloth. Regarding adornments, Allah used the term “illama zahara minha”. This means the body parts which are usually stay exposed before namahram.
So after maintaing Hifz-e-furooz , everything can be included in this illama zahara minha(with the exception of adornments on chest because Allah precisely said about it).
Allah could have also said about the hair clearly but he didn’t.
It would also be wrong to say that he unanimously said about it because why would he do that, it can get us in trouble if we donot understand the unanimous verdict. So it’s clear that regarding any serious ruling, Allah has always been precised , what is need to be done and what is not.
So if a person donot cover her hair then it logically falls in the category of “illama zahara minha”. Allah has clearly told us the things which are need to followed in this regard. So after following the particular things I don’t think women will be responsible for anything she does .
Even if the culture or society is against the adornments on hair(which is usually not the case today) but a women does (hypothetically speaking.. generally no men/women goes against the society to create unnecessary disputes) she won’t be held accountable because whatever need to be followed she is following according to her understanding of quran.The reason is culture/society do play the role, but is not decissive. Uncovered face , unadorned hair can also be against for a particular society if extra attention is concerned specifically. So the culture is not decessive in such cases where quran hasn’t prohibited it. It used the word “illama zahara minha” so hair can be included in this if a person does not cover her hair.
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Sir, can you clear these points..it’s really confusing.
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Sir can you guide me
What is the exact meaning of zeenat?
And what is the exact translation of
إلا ما ظهر منها
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Embellishments, More to casual .
Translation is
Only those (embellishments) which are normally revealed ( need not to cover)
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Dr irfan Shahzad then if exposing all embellishments is normal in a culture then the only embellishment that a woman has to hide at all times in front of na mehram is that of the chest and neck?
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Also is straightening,curling hair considered as zeenat?
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Javed ghamdi Sahab me zeenat ki definition clearly define ki he apni veil wali series me aap wo check Kar le
Uss me unho me clear bataya he had wo cheez jis se hum Apne aap ko sajate he , uss ko zeenat kehte he
Like Clothes, jewelry, Makeup, bangles,brcaletes, hair Flowers etc
Hair style Tu har koi Karta he
But hair style ko Kisi cheez se sajaya Jaye like hair jewelry, ya hair flower tab wo zeenat ki category me Aata he
Jitni Information mujhe Javed Ghamdi shahab aur Dr Irfan Shahzad se Mili wo.ye he
Aur me bhi inn.ki baat ki agree Karta ho
Agar aap apni satisfaction karna chati he
Tu aap Javed Ghamdi Sahab ki.23 response me veil topic wali series Dekh le
Aap ke doubt Clear ho Jaye ge
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Thank you for your reply
Main woh series tau dekh chuki hun Lekin baalon ki zeenat k baray main phir bhi thori confusion thi isiliye puch lia
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Applying anything external on one’s body to adorn oneself falls within definition of Zeenat, so curling and straightening of hair do not fall in this category.
Please refer to the link below from 10:03 to 25:51
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Got it,thanks!
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