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  • Marriage Without Permission Of Parents

    Posted by ashif ahmed on May 18, 2022 at 9:54 am

    mera ek cousin hei woh ek ladki ke sath shadi karna chahta hei aur undono ka relation mein hei per physical nehi bas ek dusre ko mohobbat karte hei aur shadi karna chahta hei aur ladki ke ghar wale Raji hei par mere cousin ke parents Raji nehi hei aur yeh kehte hei ki us ladki ke Walid sharab pita hei Jo ki shach bhi hei isiliye us ghar me hum rista nehi bana sakte aur kuch aur reason bhi ho sakte hei jaise ki us ladki ki ghar me gharjamai ban kar rehte hei sayad ladki ke pita. par ladki le character ek aam muslim ladki ki tarah hei jaise ki aqsar muslim ladkiya hoti hei aur ladke ke ne kaha hei 7 sal se us ladki ko wait Kara kar wada bhi kar chuka hei lekin ab mere cousin ke parents accept nehi kar rahe kya karna chahiye ladka usi ladki se shadi karna chahta hei aur parents ko bhi bohot manane ki koshish Kiya hoga par woh accept nehi kar rahe hei uska sawal yeh hoga ki 1. kya mein parents ko naraj karke usi ladki se nikah karna zaij hoga

    2. aur agar woh ladki ko chor kar kisi aur se shadi kar le toh kya gunah hoga .

    Islam me kis kis ki permission Lena kafi hei nikah ke liye.

    Umer replied 1 year, 9 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Marriage Without Permission Of Parents

    Umer updated 1 year, 9 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar May 18, 2022 at 11:39 pm

    Nikah krna Mard or aworat ka apna faisla hota hai. is key liey kisi ki ijazat lazmi nahi. Is main na farmaani ka masla nahi, kun kay wo apna Haq istemaal krein gya.

    albatta hamary society main choonka combine family system hai, is liey sari family ki razamandi zarori ho jati hai ta kay bad main koi masla na banay.

    Parents ko bhi chaheay kay bachon ki marzi ka Khiyaal rakhain or bahchon ko bhi chahaiey ko parents agar maqool bat ki waja sy mana kr rahain hain to un ki baat sunaien.

  • ashif ahmed

    Member May 20, 2022 at 8:36 am

    lekin ek hadith me aisa kyo kaha rasullah s a w ne ladki ke Walid ke izajat ki wagair nikah nehi ho sakta ….?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar May 21, 2022 at 3:23 am

    ایسا ہونا نہیں چاہیے۔ مگر یہ لازم نہیں۔

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar May 21, 2022 at 3:26 am

    احادیث روای کا بیان ہوتا ہے اور وہ سارا سیاق و سباق بھی عموما نقل نہیں کرتے۔ اس لیے محض حدیث سے کوئی حکم نہیں لیا جا سکتا۔ حدیث میں قرآن اور دین کے اصولوں کا اطلاق بیان ہوتا ہے۔ اور کبھی کوئی مشورہ ہا انتظامی طور پر کوئی حکم بیان ہوتا ہے۔ اصل بنیاد قرآن ، سنت متواترہ اور دین و اخلاق کے مسلمات ہیں۔

  • ashif ahmed

    Member June 2, 2022 at 10:16 am

    par ek hadith me aisa bhi aya hei ki wali ke ijjat ke bagair nikah batil hei is mamle ache se rehnumai kare

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 3, 2022 at 4:35 am

    یہ بات بھی واضح رہنی چاہیے کہ نکاح خاندان کے جس ادارے کو وجود میں لانے کے لیے کیا جاتا ہے ، اُس کی حرمت کا تقاضا ہے کہ یہ والدین اور سرپرستوں کو ساتھ لے کر اور اُن کی رضا مندی سے کیا جائے ۔ اِس میں شبہ نہیں کہ نکاح میں فیصلہ اصلاً مردو عورت کرتے ہیں اور اُن کے علانیہ ایجاب و قبول سے یہ منعقد ہو جاتا ہے ، لیکن اولیا کا اذن اگر اُس میں شامل نہیں ہے تو اِس کی کوئی معقول وجہ لازماً سامنے آنی چاہیے ۔ یہ نہ ہو تو معاشرے کا نظم اجتماعی یہ حق رکھتا ہے کہ اِس طرح کا نکاح نہ ہونے دے ۔ ’لا نکاح إلا بولي‘ (سرپرست کے بغیر کوئی نکاح نہیں) اور اِس طرح کی دوسری روایتوں میں یہی بات بیان ہوئی ہے ۔ عورت کی بغاوت چونکہ اِس معاملے میں خاندان کے لیے غیر معمولی اختلال کا باعث بن جاتی ہے ، اِس لیے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے اپنے قول و فعل سے اولیا پر واضح کر دیا ہے کہ اُس کے بارے میں وہ کوئی فیصلہ اُس کی اجازت کے بغیر نہ کریں ، ورنہ عورت چاہے گی تو اُن کا یہ فیصلہ رد کر دیا جائے گا ۔

    (میزان، 421)

  • ashif ahmed

    Member June 3, 2022 at 11:01 am

    please can you answer me again in hindi or english

  • Nadeem Minhas

    Member June 3, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    In Quran it states to gain permission of female’s guardian. I suppose that would be if the female is living with or dependent on parents or a guardian. If the female is earning her own living and living independently or capable of living independently then perhaps she doesn’t need permission from guardian, but still, to form a solid institution of marriage and to gain guidance and support of family, having family’s permission is better.

    Suppose the male was deceiving the female or divorces her after a short period of time or in other case if the couple gets into financial issues, wouldn’t it be difficult for them to gain support from their parents and family?

  • Nadeem Minhas

    Member June 3, 2022 at 2:47 pm

    Although this verse talks specifically about getting permission from the guardian of a slave women, but perhaps the inherent rule is applicable to free believing women too.

    [4:25] Those among you who cannot afford to marry free believing women, may marry believing slave women. GOD knows best about your belief, and you are equal to one another, as far as belief is concerned. You shall obtain permission from their guardians before you marry them, and pay them their due dowry equitably. They shall maintain moral behavior, by not committing adultery, or having secret lovers. Once they are freed through marriage, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half of that for the free women. Marrying a slave shall be a last resort for those unable to wait. To be patient is better for you. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 3, 2022 at 10:51 pm

    it should be kept in mind that it is essential for the sanctity of the institution of family – the very institution marriage creates – that marriage takes place with the consent and presence of the elders of the family. There is no doubt about the fact that the decision of marriage is primarily taken by the concerned man and woman. However, if the marriage does not take place through the consent of the guardians or the elders of a family, then there must be a solid reason for this. In the absence of such a reason, a state has the authority to stop such a marriage from taking place. [5] Narratives such as لَا نِكَاحَ اِلَّا بِوَلِى (no marriage should take place without the [permission of] the guardian) [6] and other similar ones actually allude to this aspect. Since the rebellion of a lady in this matter can cause great disruption in a family, the Prophet (sws) made it clear upon the guardians through both his words and the measures he took that they must not take any decision in this regard without her consent. If the lady wants, their decision can be revoked.

    It is narrated by Abu Hurayrah (rta) that the Prophet (sws) is reported to have said: “A widow must not be married off without her consent and the consent of a virgin is [also] necessary.” People inquired: “How should her consent be obtained.” The Prophet answered: “If she stays quiet it means that she agrees to it.”

  • Umer

    Moderator June 4, 2022 at 2:58 am

  • Umer

    Moderator June 4, 2022 at 2:58 am

  • ashif ahmed

    Member June 4, 2022 at 7:06 am

    hadith me wali ka lafz kiske liye aya hei bap ke liye ya ladki ke liye matlab

    ladki ki permission ke bagair nikah nehi hogi yaa ma baap ke permission ke bagair ..?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 4, 2022 at 7:12 am

    Wali is the guardian of the girl. Nikah without the permission of the guardian should have some acceptable grounds otherwise the court can nullify the nikah or can maintain it.

  • ashif ahmed

    Member June 4, 2022 at 7:27 am

    shukriya isse nikah par koi fark nehi padega agar court isko zaij mane ya is mamle khamosh rahe

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar June 4, 2022 at 11:11 pm

    Yes.

  • ashif ahmed

    Member June 27, 2022 at 6:05 pm

    1doubt clear de society ka yaha kaise nikah ko rokna zaij hoga ya haq hoga

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