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  • Judgement According To Piety Or Ultimate Truth

    Posted by Mohammed Zubair Alam on May 25, 2022 at 2:39 am

    Will a person be judged according to his/her piety or the ultimate truth?.

    Example:- 1)If a person is from a traditional muslim family and believes that listening to music is haram according to Islam , but still listens to it cause he finds no wrong in it, so how will he be judged?

    Many examples can be there like beard, hijab etc.

    So will a muslim be punished for not having beard or listening to music even after believing that such things are mandatory and haram?.

    Mohammed Zubair Alam replied 1 year, 10 months ago 3 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Judgement According To Piety Or Ultimate Truth

  • Ahsan

    Moderator May 26, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    Judgment belong to God. We only know it will be true justice.
    No one on earth can be sure what will happen. One must try their best to attain purification by investigation with sincerity.

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 27, 2022 at 10:57 am

      Got it …whenever I try to think of such things , I fail to come to any conclusion.

      Thank you!🙏🏻

  • Umer

    Moderator May 27, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    If something is not Prohibited in reality and someone through fair effort comes to the conclusion that it actually is, then going against it is something which inculcates hypocrisy. Since here that matter at hand was not something actually prohibited, so at the end, it won’t prove detrimental to the individual ethically speaking, but the same attuitude of hypocrisy can spill into any other matter which can lead one to commit a prohibited act because of the same hypocrisy and hence resulting accountability.

    The same attitude was criticized in Quran where Muslims used to think that having intimate relation with their spouse during nights of Ramdhan was prohibited (under influence of Jews) and yet they betrayed that; and Quran emphasized that God could’ve held them accountable for this deception but instead He forgave them. Probable reason being since such an act was not a sin or ethical violation in reality. But nevertheless, Quran rebuked this kind of attitude.

    أُحِلَّ لَكُمْ لَيْلَةَ الصِّيَامِ الرَّفَثُ إِلَى نِسَآئِكُمْ هُنَّ لِبَاسٌ لَّكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لِبَاسٌ لَّهُنَّ عَلِمَ اللّهُ أَنَّكُمْ كُنتُمْ تَخْتانُونَ أَنفُسَكُمْ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَعَفَا عَنكُمْ فَالآنَ بَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَابْتَغُواْ مَا كَتَبَ اللّهُ لَكُمْ وَكُلُواْ وَاشْرَبُواْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكُمُ الْخَيْطُ الأَبْيَضُ مِنَ الْخَيْطِ الأَسْوَدِ مِنَ الْفَجْرِ ثُمَّ أَتِمُّواْ الصِّيَامَ إِلَى الَّليْلِ وَلاَ تُبَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَأَنتُمْ عَاكِفُونَ فِي الْمَسَاجِدِ تِلْكَ حُدُودُ اللّهِ فَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهَا كَذَلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللّهُ آيَاتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَّقُونَ

    [Since you want to ask this, let Me answer this that] it has been made lawful for you to lie with your wives in the nights of the fast; they are a garment to you as you are to them. God knew that you were deceiving yourselves [39]. He has relented towards you and pardoned you [40]. Therefore, [without any hesitation] you may now lie with them and [without any hesitation] seek what [result] God has ordained for you. And eat and drink until the white thread of the dawn is totally evident to you from the black thread of night. Then complete the fast till nightfall and do not lie with them [even at night] when you are stationed for itikaf in the mosques. These are the bounds set by God: so do not go near them. Thus He makes known His revelations to mankind that they may attain piety. (Quran 2:187)

    (Excerpt from Quranic Exegesis: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi)

    (Translated by Dr. Shehzad Saleem)

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    [39]. The implication is that in spite of being of the view that it was not permissible for them to go near their wives in the nights of Ramadan, they were defying their own view. One reason for this view could have been that among the Jews, the next fast would start right after one had broken his fast and they would consider eating and drinking and having sexual intercourse with the wife as prohibited. Muslims thought that they too would have to follow the Jews in this matter. However, some of the Muslims in spite of thinking so deviated from the view they held. This is something which the Quran called deceiving one’s conscience, which is a self evident reality. If a person considers something to be a requisite of religion and still does not act according to it regardless of the fact that it is actually a requisite or not, then this is not permissible to him and would be called deceiving one’s conscience.

    [40]. This deception could have earned them the wrath of God but the Almighty mercifully pardoned them.

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 28, 2022 at 12:46 am

      Understood. Thank you so much for such a beautiful explanation.🙏🏻

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 28, 2022 at 2:09 am

      One thing I would like to ask is If a person believes that music is haram but is still accustomed to listening to it but later realizes in his life that Music is not haram, so shall he repent for for having such an attitude ,or not ?.

      I think it will depend on the individual, technically one may not feel the need to repent after realizing a certain thing is not prohibited in reality, but one should try to realize the contradictions in his/her attitude and should try to avoid contradictions in actions and beliefs later in life.

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 28, 2022 at 6:33 am

      Bdw we are applying the word “hyprocrisy” to such an attitude because when someone believes something to be prohibited but still does it without any INTENTION to stop that particular act in future, right?

      I am asking this because we humans commit many mistakes even after knowing a certain thing is wrong but we feel guilt, we repent even after continously commiting a wrong act and always have an intention to quit that bad habbit, If not immediately but definitely ….cause many times we fail to stop a particular act abruptly. So this is not hyprocrisy attitude, right?.

    • Umer

      Moderator May 28, 2022 at 4:04 pm

      Honestly trying to avoid contradictions in life is also a way of repentance. Repentance is a broad term which encompasses realization of a mistake and attempt to not repeat the same mistake in future. Sometimes it manifests in the form of an utterance, sometimes in an action and sometimes both.

      The word hypocrisy is used here in literal sense and not as a terminology. Linguistically, it can apply to every situation where person actually believes in one thing but acts otherwise.

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 29, 2022 at 1:37 am

      1) Linguistically this word can be used everywhere, but I am asking what exact is the attitude that the Quran actually speaks of and considered a great sin?.

      Like, If a person realizes that music is not haram so automatically he will not repent, but does he need to repent for the attitude which he had before this realization?.

      2) Another question that I have is,

      The word “Hypocrisy” which the Quran actually talks about can’t apply to the mistakes/sins committed by people, right?.

      Cause if this is the case, then every minor sin is also a major sin.

    • Umer

      Moderator May 29, 2022 at 10:04 pm

      1) Realization and correction of attitude would suffice in this case.

      2) That is correct.

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 29, 2022 at 11:19 pm

      Thank you sir🙏🏻

  • Umer

    Moderator May 27, 2022 at 11:32 pm

    • Mohammed Zubair Alam

      Member May 28, 2022 at 12:51 am

      So we can say that it is actually the flaws in the traditional scholarly approach that are leading to such an attitude?.

    • Umer

      Moderator May 28, 2022 at 4:08 pm

      Failure of traditional approach which has become stagnant with respect to its jurisprudence throughout these years, and is more interested in imposing blind faith on individuals instead of adopting an epistemological approach.

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