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Bible About Loot AS Having Sex With Daughters?
What Islam says about Loot A.S having sex with his daughters and on the other hand cursing the nation on sodomy?Are the morals correct?
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Bible About Loot AS Having Sex With Daughters?
updated 3 years, 5 months ago
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History is not a subject of Islam. Quran uses historical facts mainly as evidence to drive a point across.
That said, even Bible doesn’t present this story as you stated. To my knowledge, Bible states that his two daughters devised a plan to get him drunk in order to have intercourse with him. How can the blame be placed on Lut AS for a bad deed committed by his daughters?
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His daughters were saved from the punishment of God. It doesn’t seem in their character to devise a scheme like this at all. I think k we have to reject all of this blasphemous baseless history
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Just seems so incredible. Could any daughter do this? Can any one give more evidence regarding the above story?
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Genesis 19:30-38
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My comment may seem outrageous, and I am not here to offend anyone, but the major reason why incest (having sexual relations with siblings) is wrong, because it can create medical problems for offspring. I don’t see any other reason why sex with one’s sister is more wrong than sex with his cousin (even with cousin there is medical issue albeit lesser than one’s own sister). It is our conditioning based on the social norms.
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This practice is against the collective sense and nature of human beings. People all over the world did not indulge in this practice before medical science proved that it was problematic for the offspring, and they don’t do so now.
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Medical science also proved it problematic to have offspring with our cousins (on a slightly lesser scale than having offspring from one’s own sister) .
I don’t know for sure but probably in ancient times, around 50000 years ago, humans may have practiced incest, and over the time may have found it caused problems.. I am not sure if even animals have any relationship with their own brothers/sisters for the purpose of reproduction, it may have something to do with evolution.
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It’s best not to any draw conclusions out of things that we have no evidence for. As for animals, this practice is not common among them either – only a handful of animals practice it.
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From your argument, it can be said that, if we prevent birth or use contraceptives, then incest is ok.
Quran has forbid it without giving any reasons, so its forbidden forever what ever argument you bring.
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In an interfaith debate, a very important question was raised about the morality of the Prophets and how each of the three religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) and their scriptures view the subject. The Priest argued that the bible only portrays the prophets as human as you and i am, along with their faults and sins as opposed to Quran and thats the beauty of it. That’s how one is able to relate more to their lives contrary to their morals and character being on an unattainable level. Then umer Suleiman replies. I probably won’t be able to do justice so please listen from 40:00-when the subject ends.
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The question dealt with is – ‘Is it a form of sanitising to say that if theres something uncomfortable attributed to a Prophet, im gonna say the problem is in the attribution, not the Prophet?’
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Rabbi makes a good point.
We also look at the Quran and study it very deeply.
The point is that Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم gave us the Quran and he acted by it too.
But we would probably say that Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم is the pinnacle of morality. But these ascriptions of the bible are not reasonable for a man of God.
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Exactly. That too, and especially the man who God chose to deliver His message. I mean, one could already question why not me? But if we put the morality thing into perspective then it does make sense. He chose the people who were already and in His knowledge would continue living their lives better than you and I would. This was their qualification to he chosen by God. We on the other hand, could try and our efforts can earn us a place with them in the Hereafter.
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Yes!
And to ascribe these horrific things to prophets goes against reason that God would choose these people to be his prophets- or allow such a tragedy to occur to them
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And then one could take this further to argue that God’s actions are random and solely based on His Will, rather than Merit. Which could turn the whole narrative of the Quran upside down of guidance and misguidance.
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How?
There are two things:
It doesn’t make sense for a prophet himself to do bad because God chose him in merit
It doesn’t make sense that such a tragedy would occur to him as he is an ambassador of God
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Both.
The first one because it perfectly aligns with God’s law of guidance and misguidance as well as His justice (which is based on merit purely).
Also the second one because if a person like you or me are promised protection by God from all the external forces of evil working to influence me, how does it make sense to not implement this on His prophet?
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We agree! This fake history should be rejected- and not just because the bible’s state of collection and transmission and interpolation but due to the scheme of God!
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