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Prostration Of Respect And Dependence On Hadith
Assalamualaikum,
Hello there! I have been recently learning things from Ghamidi Sahab, and his opinion of Hadith that it is not an independent source of religion hence it does not add or subtract something from religion, but rather it is an application and explanation of a pre-existing rule. This opinion made quite a lot of sense to me, as how would Prophet leave the new injunction or rule in religion solely by mentioning it a few times in front of group of people and leave it onto their narrations? This opinion made sense to me logically.
But some questions came into my mind, one of which is that we know Sajdah Tazeemi is prohibited in Islam and it was allowed previously but in the shariah of Prophet it was abrogated, but the question arises that don’t the scholars when explaining it’s prohibition, present Ahadith, so is it like it’s decisive prohibition mentioned in Ahadith? If it’s so like this, doesn’t it again challenge the opinion of Ghamidi Sahab that it cannot be used as an independent source?
As he said in here.
And secondly, In this video ghamidi Sahab said that any posture that is in Prayer cannot be done for anyone else, so what about standing for elders when they come in a room for respect or standing for national anthem for respect? Does it come under the heading of doing Qiyam(standing) like in prayer? Or for it to be Haram in that basis, a person has to be closing his hands and look down like in real Qiyam? If its like that, what about Ahadith presented by people of knowledge that once prophet commanded people to stand up for their leader when they came for giving a judgement? And prophet standing up when her daughter arrives.
And lastly what did Ghamidi sahab mean it cannot be done “Qulli ya Juzwi”, what does it exactly mean? Does it mean that anyone for example who was previously sitting with one leg on top of another but as soon as some elder came, he puts both legs down and sits in a respectable manner for them, so he does sitting for them in respect (not Qulli as he is not sitting on floor with knees bent forward but Juzwi as he is sitting properly out of respect hence doing a part of posture e.g just sitting out of respect or if we go with another example a person standing for someone in respect but not hands tied and looking down (juzwi not Qulli?) ) Please explain me this in details as i am confused
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Prostration Of Respect And Dependence On Hadith
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It is not dependent on Hadith, rather It is stipulated in Quran that prostration is for Allah only (e.g see Quran 41:37) and is complemented by ijma of ummah and ijma of their ‘ilm‘ (academic history) that Prophet Muhammad (Sws) forbade it explicitly.
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@UmerQureshi brother can you explain me what he meant by when he said “Na Apne Juzw me Qabool ki jayegi na Apne Qull mein, ba haisyat e hayet”
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Whether it is an isolated action of prostration or a complete Salah like ritual, it is prohibited in all such forms to be done for anyone other than Allah.
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