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  • Triumph Of Jesus AS And His Immediate Followers

    Posted by Samama Fahim on March 16, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    Believers! Be God’s helpers the way Jesus, son of Mary, said to the disciples: “Who will be my helper in the cause of God?” The disciples replied: “We are God’s helpers.” Consequently, one group from among the Israelite professed faith, while another became adamant on disbelief. Then We helped the believers against their enemies; so, they triumphed over them. (Sura As-Saf, Ayat 14)

    Note the word ‘believers’ in bold in the translation above. Are these the same believers who said to Jesus (AS) that they were God’s helpers (also in bold)? If so, do we know from some reliable source in what manner Allah gave them triumph over the disbelievers? There is no context, in this ayah, to enable us to distinguish the believers who said that they would help Allah (His cause) from those whom Allah (SWT) gave triumph. In fact, someone reading the Qur’an for the first time would take those whom Allah gave triumph to be those who said that they would help Allah to Jesus (AS). I read the following in Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews:

    Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the Sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others, [or, some of his companions]; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned…” (

    According to it, Jesus’s followers, such as James, were persecuted by Jewish high authorities. If this source is reliable, then it couldn’t have been political superiority that Allah (SWT) hinted at using the words . In Sura Al-Mujadilah, Ayat 22, Allah (SWT) says:

    This is because God has decreed: “I and My Messengers are destined to be dominant.” In reality, God is extremely Powerful and very Mighty.

    In the tafseer to this Ayat, Ghamidi sahab writes:

    This is a statement of the established practice of God ordained from the very beginning of time: the rift between truth and falsehood in the times of messengers of God reaches its culmination in dominance for God and His messengers, and the devils who try to fight with them with their groups are necessarily humbled and humiliated.

    So the Jewish authorities who disbelieved in Jesus being a Rasoolullah should have been humbled and humiliated before Jesus’s death.

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  • Triumph Of Jesus AS And His Immediate Followers

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  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar March 17, 2023 at 4:27 am

    The verse of al Mujaadial does not hint at the political supremacy of the prophets. Their triumph is the humiliation and annihilation of their opponents, in principle, which sometimes turns out to be political supremacy. and it actually happened in the case of Bani Israel and Bani Ishmael because they were promised political supremacy if they prove themselves true believers and preach His message.

    Persecution of the followers is a part of the process which ultimately leads to their deliverance from the persecution. The same happened to the followers of Jesus and later with their efforts the believers came to power. yes, in the verse cited, the believers are the extended believers.

    • Samama Fahim

      Member March 17, 2023 at 4:35 am

      What do you mean by ‘humiliation and annihilation in principle’?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar March 17, 2023 at 4:45 am

    The opponents of the Rasool who were Mushrikeen, are subject to both humiliation and annihilation:

    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُحَادُّونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ أُولَٰئِكَ فِي الْأَذَلِّينَ ‎﴿٢٠

    ﴾‏ كَتَبَ اللَّهُ لَأَغْلِبَنَّ أَنَا وَرُسُلِي ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ قَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ

    as it happened to the nations of the Rusul, one after another. The Rusul were triumphant but not every one of them could get political supremacy against his opponents.

    • Samama Fahim

      Member March 17, 2023 at 4:47 am

      How did it happen in the case of Jesus AS, if it was not political supremacy?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar March 17, 2023 at 4:50 am

    It is another separate law or arrangement initiated to punish the Jews. The immediate followers did not gain political supremacy but the later ones did.

    • Samama Fahim

      Member March 17, 2023 at 5:13 am

      The ayat says that the immediate followers were triumphant or at least there is no context to distinguish the believers who said they would help Allah from those whom Allah made triumphant.

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