Ask Ghamidi

A Community Driven Discussion Portal
To Ask, Answer, Share And Learn

Forums Forums Sources of Islam Narration Of One Tabiah Covering Her Face After Quoting Quran 24:60

Tagged: , , ,

  • Narration Of One Tabiah Covering Her Face After Quoting Quran 24:60

    Posted by Sana Khan on January 9, 2024 at 12:47 am

    Asim al-Ahwal said: We used to enter upon Hafsah bint Sirin who had put her jilbab thus and covered her face with it, and we would say to her: May Allah have mercy on you. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment” [al-Nur 24:60]. And she would say to us: What comes after that? We would say: “But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them”. And she would say: That is confirming the idea of hijab. (Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 7/93)

    Muhammad Raheel replied 2 weeks, 1 day ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Narration Of One Tabiah Covering Her Face After Quoting Quran 24:60

    Muhammad Raheel updated 2 weeks, 1 day ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator January 9, 2024 at 7:44 am

    This narration is reported by Bayhaqi in his Sunan Al-Kubra, Number 13534, 7/150 (دار الكتب العلمية، بيروت – لبنان) and the chain is classed Sahih by Shiekh Albani in Jilbab al-Mara-tal Muslimah, Page 110 (Dar-ul-Islam Al-Nashar, Third Edition).

    Hafsah bint Sirin was a very pious Tabiah (تابعة) who died in the year 101 AH and lived for seventy years. This narration points towards Hafsah bint Sirin’s great sense of chastity and modesty. What she was wearing was enough, but still she felt uncomfortable and she wanted to cover her face too, which was not obligatory. Her understanding of Quran 24:60 seems to be different because it appears that she included face in that directive as well and took “Saiyyab” in the meaning similar to how its been used in “Jilbab” verse in Surah Ehzab verse 59 instead of how its been used in “Khimar” verse in Surah Nur verse 31. While scholars hold two different views in this regard.

    You can read further commentary of this narration in English rendering of the book by Shiekh Albani (relevant pages attached).

    For view of Ghamidi Sahab on Parda/Hijab, please refer to the following threads:

    Discussion 30301

    Discussion 47826

  • Muhammad Raheel

    Member May 12, 2025 at 4:07 am

    @UmerQureshi could you send the comments of Sheikh Albani on this again as For some reason i cannot read it

    • Umer

      Moderator May 15, 2025 at 12:52 am

      I have reattached the images. They should be visible now.

  • Muhammad Raheel

    Member May 15, 2025 at 4:10 am

    @UmerQureshi Could you explain as there a lot of stuff on those pages

  • Muhammad Raheel

    Member May 15, 2025 at 8:41 am

    @UmerQureshi I read those pages and I thought that Shiekh Albani was with niqab being obligatory. Am I correct

    • Umer

      Moderator May 16, 2025 at 12:47 am

      He does not consider Niqab of face mandatory. You can read from the attached image.

      To understand his view completely, please read his book on Parda which was written as a critique on Molana Modudi’s Arguments on Parda. You can read or download its English Rendering at the following link:

      https://www.kalamullah.com/dress-code.html

  • Muhammad Raheel

    Member May 16, 2025 at 1:21 am

    @UmerQureshi sahab I think Albani uses the hadith 4104 from Abu dawud as evidence but ghamidi sahab has said its daif so is there another argument for this

    • Umer

      Moderator May 16, 2025 at 1:32 am

      This thread is not about Abu dawud’s hadith 4104.

  • Muhammad Raheel

    Member May 16, 2025 at 2:08 am

    I am not here to talk about that hadith I meant that I think that albani uses 4104 as a dalil so if it’s daif do we have any other dalil for this tabiun narration

You must be logged in to reply.
Login | Register