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Shafaat
Is hadees ko bayan karte hue ghamidi sahab ke mutabiq Qayamat ke din log 2 giroh me takseem hojaenge 1 jannat wale or dusre dozak wale, isme mera sawal hai wo log kha kis giroh me honge jo rehmat or shafaat ke mustaheeq hai. Or unka naam ae amal kis hath me hoga?
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Shafaat
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According to Ghamidi Sahab, the hadith is about first part i.e Paradise and Hell based on merit. (People with record in their right and left hands are in this part).
After that comes the part of forgiveness which includes Shafaat.Kindly watch the video below at the time frame:
19:25 – 20:42
https://youtu.be/PcA0GPv_AQ8?t=1165 -
Quran batata hai jiske left hath me naam e amal dediya jaega unka to dozakh ka faisla hojaega or kahi makamat me zikar hai wo bolenge ki humara ye naam e amal kaash hume milta hi nai or ulte hath me jinko pakda diya jaega woto maut mangenge. Mera sawal ye hai ki insan jo merit par kamyaab nai ho saka agarche duniya me imaan wala tha amal b karta tha lekin kuch bure amal uske zada bhari hogaye to kya wo b is tarah ki halat se mubtila hojaenge, i think mere hisab se to jab wo shafaat ke haqdaar hai to wo b alag giroh hi hona chaiye kyu wo itni sakht halat me giraft honge woto allah ki rehmat me aane wale hai
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That is what the video is saying. Right hand and Left hand cases are for black and white cases where good people are obvious and evil people are obvious. For mix cases, the Qur’an is silent as Ghamidi Sahab say that it only talks about those who succeed and fail at merit. For those who are lacking, have done some good, have done some bad, there will be case to case judging by Allah and means of forgiveness like Shafaat. They may not receive a record in hand at all. But Allah knows better as Qur’an is simply silent on this matter.
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Sorry cannot understand, can you explain further
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فیصلہ سنانے کے بعد شفاعت بخشش اور شفاعت کا عمل شروع ہوگا۔ بخشش اور شفاعت انھیں کی ہوگی جو کسی وجہ سے سزا کے مستحق تھے مگر رعایت ملنے کا امکان بھی تھا۔
اس لیے ایسے لوگوں کو علیحدہ نہیں کیا جائے گا یہ انھی گناہ گاروں میں سے ہی ہوں گے۔
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Inka amal nama konse hath me hoga?
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جن کے لیے جہنم کا فیصلہ ہوگا ان کے بائیں ہاتھ میں ہوگا۔
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I think misunderstood i am asking jo shafaat ke haqdar hai kya unke b ulte hath me amal ka record hoga? Jinke liye dozak ka faisla hojaega unke hona chaiye, shafati giroh to rehmat ka hoga to unke kyu daae hath me hoga
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**I mean shafati giroh rehmat ka hoga to unke kyu ulte hath me hoga?
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بائیں ہاتھ والوں میں بھی کچھ لوگوں کی شفاعت کی جا سکتی ہے جو ان شفاعت کے مستحق ہوں گے۔
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Surah Haqqah 69 ayat 25 tarjuma:
اور جس کا نامۂ اعمال اُس کے بائیں ہاتھ میں دیا جائے گا، وہ کہے گا: اے کاش، میرا یہ نامۂ اعمال مجھے نہ ملتا
اور میرا حساب کیا ہے، میں اُس سے بے خبر ہی رہتا!
اے کاش، وہی موت فیصلہ کن ہو جاتی!
میرا مال میرے کیا کام آیا؟
Surah 84 inshiqaq ayat 10
اور جس کا نامۂ اعمال اُس کے پیچھے ہی [24] سے (اُس کے بندھے ہوئے ہاتھوں میں) پکڑا دیا جائے گا،
وہ جلد موت کی دہائی دے گا
اور دوزخ میں جا پڑے [25] گا۔
Ye chand quran ki ayate hai bayen (left) hath walo ki. In ayat ko pad kar or apki wazahat se mere ye baat samaj nai aa rahi ki wo insan jo khuda se darta bi hai imaan dil me b hai neki ka jazba bi hai kuch ache amal b kiye hai magar uska pher bi fisal gya bade bade gunah b kar beta hai bhot kotai bi hui hai magar dil me iman tha. To wo kyu qayamat ke din is halat jo upar quran bata raha hai us halat me mubtila hoga wo maut ki arzu karega bhale hi merit par kamyaab nai hua ho wo itne sakht halat se kese do char hoga isko meh kud par lekar sochta hu bhot dar or depression paida hojata hai.
Lekin quran se in ayat ko pad kar malum to ye chalta hai ye wo hai jinka faisla ho chuka or wo gunah gaar sabit ho chuke hai ab koi sunwai ka imkaan nai. ab dozak me hi padenge ab sifarish ki bi tawakko nahi bachi hai ye shayad unke liye hai or shifaati giroh to rehmat ka ummeed wala giroh hai wo siya safed apne amal ko nai kar saka to unke liye quran se khamoshi hi lagti hai. Or is video me jo niche link hai isme shayad ghamidi sahab b yhi batane ki koshish kar rahe hai jo siya or safed nai ho sake.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MObz2CL6uU&pp=ygUcaHV6b29yIGtpIHNoYWZhYXQgYnkgZ2hhbWlkaQ%3D%3D
Barae karam inayat farmae bhot depression paida ho raha hai kyuki apan darmiyani logo ke amal ese hai ho sakta hai kuch shafaat hi ho. Lekin bayen hath me amal nama aya fir shafat tak pochne tak upar jo quran ne halat batai unse do char hona bhot depress paida hora hai
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سزا اسی کو ملے گی جو سزا کا مستحق ہوگا۔ خدا یہ فیصلہ پورے انصاف سے کرے گا۔ یہ سزا بڑے گناہوں اور سرکشی کی وجہ سے ملے گی۔
جو خدا سے ڈرتا ہے وہ بڑے گناہ نہیں کرتا۔ کر لے تو معافی مانگ لیتا ہے۔ جو ایسا نہیں کرتا وہی سزا پائے گا۔
آیات میں سزا کے اعلان کا ذکر ہے اس کے بعد معافی بھی مل سکتی ہے۔
دنیا میں بھی یوں ہی ہوتا ہے عدالت سزا سنا دیتی ہے اس کے بعد رحم کی اپیل کی جاتی ہے اور رحم کیا بھی جاتا ہے۔
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“Is hadees ko bayan karte hue ghamidi sahab ke mutabiq Qayamat ke din log 2 giroh me takseem hojaenge 1 jannat wale or dusre dozak wale, isme mera sawal hai wo log kha kis giroh me honge jo rehmat or shafaat ke mustaheeq hai. Or unka naam ae amal kis hath me hoga?”
Please correct some misconceptions.
1. People will be stratified into three groups on the DoJ, as foretold by God Almighty: People of the Right, People of the Left, and the Elites.
56:7 And you will be in three groupings.
For more on what these three groups will be, who will be in them and based on what criteria and achievements, please see Chapter 56 (Waqi’a), verses 8 to 56.
2. Intercession would not be anyone’s right or استحقاق on that Day. Therefore, it is not correct to say that anyone will be “mustahiq” of Intercession. The sectarian versions of sunni and shia Islam, which are based more on false and fabricated stories rather than Revelation of God, propagate a very mythic concept of Intercession which goes contradictory to Quran on many accounts.
For instance, according to Quran:
a. Intercession would not be a rule, but an exception. The rule is that there will be no intercession and what anyone has “deserved” is the final judgement (2:48, 2:123, 2:254, 6:51).
b. No human or angel would have the vested power to intercede (39:43, 2:255). Intercession belongs to God Alone (39:44).
c. If anyone ever relied on Intercession or had a claim over it in their lifetime, contrary to God’s warnings, they would surely not get it. Intercession for them would be out of question (6:94, 10:18, 30:13).
The exceptions to above rules as told by God Almighty, (out of His sheer mercy and benevolence and not at all through استحقاق of anyone), are as under:
a. Only real and close contacts, who knew about the guilty person’s life and their deeds and can therefore give testimony could intercede, if permission is given by God at all (43:86). This means that Prophets or Saints would not be allowed to intercede on behalf of random people who they didn’t know personally in real life.
b. Intercession would only be allowed on behalf of people who God is already pleased with (21:28, 53:26), and therefore allows. It clearly means that Intercession could benefit only those who are already in the good books of God Almighty. This would (likely) limit the scope of intercession drastically.
A detailed discussion of Quran’s concept of Intercession can be viewed here: https://uiuk.org/intercession-shafaat-in-the-light-of-holy-quran/
Finally, please note that when you come across any videos and hadiths saying anything about God or the DoJ, it is your responsibility to crosscheck them against the Quranic verses as the only test of authenticity of any news about God, His Sunnah, and the events on the DoJ is Quran and Quran only.
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