Surah Luqman Verse 34 – “only Allah Knows What’s Hidden In The Womb"

[Ammar Ahmed]

Quran’s direct addressees didn’t have that technology, and Allah is pointing out that just like they don’t know prior to birth what is in the wombs and exactly when it will emerge, similarly they don’t know when the day of judgement will occur. Always keep context in mind, both historical and linguistic. Its speaking to a specific people in a specific time period, and the phrase has a specific place and a specific linguistic context too. It’s not supposed to mean that people till the end of times wont be able to tell what’s in the wombs before birth.

[Umar Ali]

So you mean to say, Quran pak is for a specific period of time and for specific people?

[Umar Ali]

brother ammar ahmad, are you for real, in Quran it’s mentioned it’s source of guidence for all the people

[Ammar Ahmed]

I didn’t say it’s not brother. But we are not the direct addressees, we sometimes extract the indirect guidance present in the kalaam for us based on God’s direct khitab to the Prophet’s contemporaries. Plus, the video that Ahsan shared makes much more sense as to the real meaning of the verse as explained by Ghamidi Sb. It makes much sense, since historically people from way before modern medicine trained in such uloom could tell whether the child would be male or female, we see this in historical tv shows/movies too, that’s what Ghamidi Sb points towards, that even the Bedouins of the Prophet’s time could tell the gender so the real meaning might be different as explained in the video.

[Hassan Murtaza]

Mery khyal sy Ammar Ahmed shb ka ishara ayat number 34 k context ki tarf hai. Ik tafsear sy ma is ayat ka context post kr deta hn for clarity.

اِنَّ اللّٰهَ عِنْدَهٗ عِلْمُ السَّاعَةِۚ-وَ یُنَزِّلُ الْغَیْثَۚ-وَ یَعْلَمُ مَا فِی الْاَرْحَامِؕ-وَ مَا تَدْرِیْ نَفْسٌ مَّا ذَا تَكْسِبُ غَدًاؕ-وَ مَا تَدْرِیْ نَفْسٌۢ بِاَیِّ اَرْضٍ تَمُوْتُؕ-اِنَّ اللّٰهَ عَلِیْمٌ خَبِیْرٌ۠ (34)

ترجمۂ

بیشک الله کے پاس ہے قیامت کا علم اور اُتارتا ہے مینہ اور جانتا ہے جو کچھ ماؤں کے پیٹ میں ہے اور کوئی جان نہیں جانتی کہ کل کیا کمائے گی اور کوئی جان نہیں جانتی کہ کس زمین میں مرے گی بیشک الله جاننے والا بتانے والا ہے۔

تفسیر

{اِنَّ اللّٰهَ عِنْدَهٗ عِلْمُ السَّاعَةِ: بیشک قیامت کا علم اللہ ہی کے پاس ہے۔} شانِ نزول : یہ آیت حارث بن عمرو کے بارے میں نازل ہوئی جس نے نبی کریم صَلَّی اللہ تَعَالٰی عَلَیْہِ وَاٰلِہٖ وَسَلَّمَ کی خدمت میں حاضر ہو کر قیامت کا وقت دریافت کیا تھا اور یہ کہا تھا کہ میں نے کھیتی بوئی ہے، مجھے خبر دیجئے کہ بارش کب آئے گی ؟اور میری عورت حاملہ ہے، مجھے بتائیے کہ اس کے پیٹ میں کیا ہے ،لڑکایا لڑکی ؟نیزیہ تو مجھے معلوم ہے کہ کل میں نے کیا کیا،البتہ مجھے یہ بتائیے کہ آئندہ کل کو میں کیا کروں گا؟ نیز میں یہ بھی جانتا ہوں کہ میں کہاں پیدا ہوا ،لیکن مجھے یہ بتائیے کہ میں کہاں مروں گا؟ اس کے جواب میں یہ آیت ِکریمہ نازل ہوئی۔ (روح البیان، لقمان، تحت الآیۃ: ۳۴، ۷ / ۱۰۳)

[Ahsan]

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[Hassan Murtaza]

Since the sex of children is determined at the time of conception and ultrasound can not identify this till 11 weeks onward, the claim made in quran is still true. He the Almighty knows it before conception, He knows it at the very time the conception is taking place.

Even if we have the technology that could see the conception being happening, there will always be a time where His knowledge will always be above our limited knowledge.

[Umar Ali]

bro i’m a mbbs students and as per embryology until 7th week of embryonic development indifferentiate gonads are present, lkin es aayat mn koi timeframe to ni mention k at the time of fertilisation or later..

this question was asked by my fellow and i’m stuck in this question

[Hassan Murtaza]

G behtar. Timeframe ki example ma ny khud add ki hai ye samjhany k liye k technology k bawjaud b koi na koi stage aisi rehti hai jis ma Allah ka ilam insani ilam or ejad sy oper rehta hai. Jb ultrasound pakistan ma new new thi to b hmary villages ma experienced auraten and midwives breast or tummy size sy ye judge kr leti thi k larka hai ya larki. Ye technology or experience Khuda ny jo bnaya hai usi ki nishaniyuuu ki madad sy hi identify kr pati hen. Inshort ye technology and experience dependent hai khuda ki takhleaq-karda cheaz ka mushahidaaa kr k kch btany k liye.

So jb Allah ye kehta hai k He knows whats inside the womb, He actually knows it directly without any need of embryology etc because ultimately He is the one who knows everything. Ye soch ka ik pehluuuu hai, is bat ko smjhny ka ik pehluuu hai.

[Dr. Irfan Shahzad]

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The words of the Qur’an do not say ONLY Allah knows, but say, Allah knows.

This verse is a marvellous example of the precision in the Qur’an. In case of rain and that womb it doesn’t say that only God knows or no one knows but God, however in case of time and place of death and knowledge of the dooms day, it says only God knows. Read the verse.