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  • Ownership Of Land

    Posted by Muhammad Ali on December 28, 2020 at 8:41 am

    Can State forcefully take someone’s house or land for greater good and prosperity of State?

    As they recently started giving notices to thousands for New Ravi City project in Lahore, those people lived there for generations and their elders buried there.

    Can State forcefully move entire town for such projects?

    After purchasing Land, does state still have it’s rulings over it?

    Umer replied 3 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Ownership Of Land

    Umer updated 3 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
  • Umer

    Moderator December 28, 2020 at 7:02 pm
  • Muhammad Ali

    Member December 29, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    So we should stop saying that we bought House

    and start saying we rented property for long term

    and we rented property for short term.

    Doesn’t it make all the illegal occupations legal?

    Like india taking all Kashmiri land for prosperity.

    We know for resources other states taken over other’s states.

    I think this is Ghamidi sir personal ijtihad?

    • Umer

      Moderator April 14, 2021 at 4:46 pm

      Kashmir is a disputed territory, not in collective ownership of any society like Pakistan or India. Therefore, this principle cannot be applied to this situation. For reasoning how Ghamidi Sahab reached to this conclusion, his arguments and basis for his conclusion, please refer to the above shared links where Ghamidi Sahab has explained his point of view at length.

    • Muhammad Fahd Ali

      Member April 14, 2021 at 8:59 pm

      It should be in collective possession if it is taken collectively, like Ghamidi sir mentioned about that land.

      But once it is taken or purchased as individually, it should become personal property. Like Prophet Muhammad SAW purchased land from orphan boys for Masjid e Nabi. Even Prophet Muhammad SAW just became leader of Madina and he didn’t take land as collective property of Madina.

  • Muhammad Fahd Ali

    Member April 12, 2021 at 1:07 am

    Can ghamidi sir explain? why state is allowed to make a road over graveyard for community benefit?

    • Umer

      Moderator April 14, 2021 at 4:50 pm

      A state sometimes has to make many such critical decisions considering the pros and cons of such decisions especially when benefits outweigh the cost. All our lives are full of such dilemmas and critical decisions where we have to forgo something to gain something more beneficial.

    • Muhammad Fahd Ali

      Member April 14, 2021 at 9:07 pm

      Allow others to decide for your property status, will always going to result in very bad decisions.

  • Muhammad Fahd Ali

    Member April 14, 2021 at 9:04 pm

    The way Ghamidi sir is understanding this, it become quite similar to Communist ideas where you can’t have personal property.

    • Umer

      Moderator April 15, 2021 at 3:37 pm

      Brother! with all due respect, I think you haven’t studied Ghamidi Sahab’s insight into how he understood Islam’s Economic Sharia. Following is the lecture critiquing Marxism in the light of one Quranic verse.

      I invite you to please listen to complete economic Sharia Lectures to undetstand Ghamidi Sahab’s stance correctly. Please feel free to ask any objective question based on the following lectures:

      Discussion 31640

      https://youtu.be/nCowG0DHp6A

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