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  • Kia Allah Jhoot Bol Skta Hai?

    Posted by Deleted User 3319 on September 1, 2021 at 2:15 pm

    Aik sawal jo mj pichly dino sy tang kiay ja raha hai…. Socha ap sy he poch lia jae

    Sawal ye hai k kia Allah hm sy jhoot bol sakta hai?

    Ab pehli nazar dekhtay he ap k expected alfaz ye bantay hain “naoozbillah astagfirullah”. Lekin jitna simple ye sawal hai utna he complex is ka answer dena banta hai.

    Baat yaha sy bani k kahi Facebook py koi do logu ko kisi post py behs kertay dekha jis ka end kch aisay bna k Allah ne ye farmaya hai r Allah jhoot ni bolta so ye wali baat theek.(details miss krnay k liay mazrat).

    Isy dekh k mjy feel hua k log smjtay hain kiu k Allah ny ye baat kahi hai to ab ye usy pori krny he paray gi matlb Allah apna kia hua wada pora krny ka paband hain. Hala k Allha kisi ko jawab dh ni hai wo chahay jo kray koi us sy ni pocha skta k krna to ap ny ye tha lekin kia ye kiu? Kiu k agr hm ye smjain k Allah ny ye baat kahi hai to ab usy yahi krni pray gi ye k ab Allah k liay zaroori hai k wo apna wada pora karay to ye Allah honay ki definition k he khilaf hai.

    Jb k agr ye maan lia jae k Allah tala hum sy jhoot bol saktay hain to ye b bht sy masail ko janam deta hai matlb phir hm Allah py aitbar kesay karain?

    Ab r raha sawal k kia khuda jhoot bol skta hai is ja jawab ha mai dia jiay to b masla r na mai dia jae to phir b masla.

    Ap log isy kesy smjty hain mehrbani frna k apni rae ka izhar ki jiay.

    Altamash Ali replied 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Kia Allah Jhoot Bol Skta Hai?

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 1, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    Please watch:

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 1, 2021 at 2:38 pm
  • Deleted User 3319

    Member September 1, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    Shukria bi. Lekin ye dekh k mjy kch mayoosi hue hai gamdi sab k nazdeek jhoot bolna bht buri baat hai lekin khuda k liay Khud ye kesy buri ho sakti hai matlb hm to insan hain r humain jawabdah hona hai lekin Allah to kisi ko jawab dah ni r na un sy kisi ny kaha hai k jhoot na bolo mtlb wo apny py ye rule kesy lga skty hain k jhoot bolna buri baat hai

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 1, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    The question within itself is invalid. Please see the discussion shared above for more details.

  • Deleted User 3319

    Member September 1, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    Oper wali discussion dekhi hai mai ny jis mai ap question ko he invalid bna rahay hain. Dekhain agr mai kisi ko answerable ni to meray nazdeek jhoot r sach mani he nahi rakhtay mai chahy jhoot bolu ya sach is sy koi difference he create ni hota mery liay. Suppose mai ny kch intelligent robots bnae hain r un sy kaha hai k mai kl ap ko new battery lago ga agr mai na b lagao to koi kia kr ly ga wo apas mai rotay rahain k hm sy jhoot bola gaya mjy to koi farak ni parta. Ha agr ap kisi ko answerable hain r ap k actions k concequence ho gy to phir mjy sach r jhoot ka khayal rakhna paray ga. Allah tala ko to kisi b consequence sy koi farak ni prna to phir wo jhoot kiu na bolain r sach kiu bolain?

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 1, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    Junaid, God has no need to lie. Lies are told out of greed, fear, or other such negative attributes. When we say God or Allah, we’re referring to an entity who is by definition free from such attributes. Hopefully the following response will explain better:

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  • Deleted User 3319

    Member September 1, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    As for your god he has no need to lies but needs to say the truth. But my god has no such limitations truth or lie doesn’t matter for my god and no one can ask him why he lies or tells the truth because it doesn’t create any difference for him. All of humanity can go to hell or heaven it won’t matter for him or may be he decides to not even care about sending anybody to hell or heaven just put them to eternal sleep and create and new world where lying is considered as good and truth as bad. My god is independent of anything thing while yours has to act in a certain way. Peace out and Allah hafiz.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 1, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    Of course one is free to believe in a baseless idea of god since God has given us unlimited imagination and has not put any restraints around what we choose to believe in. There are thousands or probably even millions of such gods out there that find no basis in human sources of knowledge.

    When we refer to God here with a capital G, we’re referring to the Almighty Creator who has sent down scriptures through His prophets to guide us and give us knowledge that we couldn’t ascertain otherwise. This God has told us that He doesn’t lie. Furthermore, the very tools that we use to define truth and falsehood are given to us by God Himself, so the question whether or not God can lie is a logical absurdity.

  • Deleted User 3319

    Member September 1, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    Mine almighty doesn’t care weather I use a G or g. Plus it’s not a logical fallacy just because you want to believe what he says doesn’t mean he won’t do the opposite and there is no logical reason to believe that he won’t do the opposite.

  • Altamash Ali

    Member September 2, 2021 at 1:41 am

    لَوْ كَانَ فِيهِمَآ ءَالِهَةٌ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ لَفَسَدَتَا ۚ فَسُبْحَٰنَ ٱللَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلْعَرْشِ عَمَّا يَصِفُونَ ‎﴿٢٢﴾‏ لَا يُسْـَٔلُ عَمَّا يَفْعَلُ وَهُمْ يُسْـَٔلُونَ ‎﴿٢٣﴾‏

    Had there been within the (i.e. skies and earth) gods besides Allah, they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah, Lord of the Throne, above what they describe. (22) He is not questioned about what He does, but they will be questioned. (23)

    -Quran ; Surah al-Anbiya

    🙂

    Brother, what did you asked? “kya Allah hm sy jhoot bol sakta hai?”

    Answer is..

    if Allah would have lied then there must be some contradiction between his signs and his Speech or words.. but do you find any??

    At last brother read..

    بِسْمِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

    حمٓ ‎﴿١﴾‏ تَنزِيلُ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ مِنَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلْعَزِيزِ ٱلْحَكِيمِ ‎﴿٢﴾‏ إِنَّ فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ لَـَٔايَٰتٍ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ‎﴿٣﴾‏ وَفِى خَلْقِكُمْ وَمَا يَبُثُّ مِن دَآبَّةٍ ءَايَٰتٌ لِّقَوْمٍ يُوقِنُونَ ‎﴿٤﴾‏

    In the name of God, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.

    Ha, Meem. (1) The revelation of the Book is from Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Wise. (2) Indeed, within the skies and earth are signs for the believers. (3) And in the creation of yourselves and what He disperses of moving creatures are signs for people who are certain(يُوقِنُونَ)(4)

    Quran ; Surah al-Jathiya

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    وَإِذَا جَآءَكَ ٱلَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَا فَقُلْ سَلَٰمٌ عَلَيْكُمْ ۖ كَتَبَ رَبُّكُمْ عَلَىٰ نَفْسِهِ ٱلرَّحْمَةَ ۖ أَنَّهُۥ مَنْ عَمِلَ مِنكُمْ سُوٓءَۢا بِجَهَٰلَةٍ ثُمَّ تَابَ مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦ وَأَصْلَحَ فَأَنَّهُۥ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ ‎﴿٥٤﴾‏ وَكَذَٰلِكَ نُفَصِّلُ ٱلْـَٔايَٰتِ وَلِتَسْتَبِينَ سَبِيلُ ٱلْمُجْرِمِينَ ‎﴿٥٥﴾

    And when those come to you who believe in Our Signs, say, “Peace be upon you. Your Lord has decreed upon Himself mercy: that any of you who does wrong out of ignorance and then repents after that and corrects himself – indeed, He is Forgiving and Merciful.” (54) And thus do We detail the signs, and [thus] the way of the criminals will become evident. (55)

    Quran ; Surah al-An’am

    So… سَلَٰمٌ عَلَيْكُمْ

    Blue Heart

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