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  • Conflicts Among Sahaba (People Ordered To Abuse Hazrat Ali By Hazrat Muawiya)

    Posted by Shoaib Imtiyaz on March 5, 2023 at 1:48 am

    1 Sahih Muslim 2404 dAmir b. Sa’d b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa’d as the Governor and said:
    What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat ‘Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) say about ‘Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). ‘Ali said to him: Allah’s Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said to him: Aren’t you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call ‘Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: “Let us summon our children and your children.” Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) called ‘Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family.

    Ye sahih Muslim ki Hadith hai kya in par ghamidi sahab kaam kr chuke Hain

    Kya ye riwayat sahih hai ???

    2 Sahl b. Sad reported that a person from the offspring of Marwan was appointed as the governor of Medina. He called Sahl b. Sad and ordered him to abuse Ali. Sahl refused to do that. He (the governor) said to him:If you do not agree to it (at least) say: May Allah curse Abu Turab. Sahl said: There was no name dearer toAli than Abu Turab (for it was given to him by the Prophet himself) and he felt delighted when he was called by this name. He (the governor) said to him: Narrate to us the story of his being named as Abu Turab. He said: Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) came to the house of Fatima and he did not find Ali in the house; whereupon he said: Where is your uncle's son? She said: (There cropped up something) between me and him which had annoyed him with me. He went out and did not rest here. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) asked a person to find out where he was. He came and said: Allah's Messenger, he is sleeping in the mosque. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came to him and found him lying in the mosque and saw that his mantle had slipped from his back and his back was covered with dust and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) began to wipe it away from him (from the body of HadratAli) saying: Get up, covered with dust (Abu Turab); get up, covered with dust.

    Ye sahih Muslim ki Hadith hai kya in par ghamidi sahab kaam kr chuke Hain

    Kya ye riwayat sahih hai ???

    Ghamidi sahab ne Jo discuss Kiya hai hazrat ali(as) vs Ameer e shaam Wale topic me usme toh ye hai nhi

    Umer replied 4 months, 4 weeks ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Conflicts Among Sahaba (People Ordered To Abuse Hazrat Ali By Hazrat Muawiya)

    Umer updated 4 months, 4 weeks ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
  • ABDULLAH Malik

    Member March 5, 2023 at 10:53 am

    Ghamidi Saab ney haidthoon ku discuss ne kiya aur threekhi rawaiton ku byaan Kia hai jin ki isnad b check nhi hoti. Bukhari aur Muslim ki mutafiqa hadith e ammar ku ghamidi sahab ney reject Kia hai. Hadith authentic hai yaa nhi yeh muhadiseen Batai gay. Bukhari aur muslim ki hadith ku muhadiseno ney theek kaha hai.

  • Umer

    Moderator March 9, 2023 at 12:03 pm

    Ghamidi Sahab has not covered these ahadith so far because according to Ghamidi Sahab, whenever any historical narration brings into question or accuses character (moral or religious) of any historical figure, then we should be very careful in describing those narrations and should first rigorously exhaust all the resources into verifying the authencity of those narrations.

    For short comments of Ghamidi Sahab, please refer to the link below from 13:06 to 15:36

    ilm-o-Hikmat 05-03-2023

    For a detailed discussion on this matter, please refer to the vidoes in following thread:

    Discussion 77513

  • Umer

    Moderator November 17, 2023 at 8:47 am

    Please refer to the video below from 14:58 to 22:06

    https://youtu.be/TqFRsKgpcUI?si=rrNWu3HR13wWf707&t=898

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