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Ahl-e-Bait Hadith (hadith-e-kisa)
Posted by Amir Zubair Siddiqui on November 19, 2021 at 11:51 amPlease tell me about the authenticity of the famous Ahle bait Hadis, my question is why Hazrat Ayesha was not included in the Hadies as Ahle bait being his Wife. What was the occasion when the Prophet PBUH called Hazrat Ali to include him in Ahle Bait. Please explain
Umer replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago 5 Members · 12 Replies -
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Ahl-e-Bait Hadith (hadith-e-kisa)
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Faisal Haroon
Moderator November 19, 2021 at 7:26 pmPlease see:
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Amir Zubair Siddiqui
Member November 20, 2021 at 12:56 amI was asking about the Hadies in which it is stated that Prophet PBUH, was at his house in bed , he called Hazrat Ali, Hassan , Hussain and Fatima put them under a cover of sheet and said these are my Ahle Bait. And at that time Hazrat Ayesha was also in the same house. I wanted to know about this. I m a regular lister of Ghamdi Sb and would like to know the reality about this event/ narration of Hadies
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Umer
Moderator November 20, 2021 at 3:43 amFollowing is the Hadith of Sahih Muslim you might be referring to:
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2424
According to Ghamidi Sahab, Quran is very explicit as to who are ahl-e-bait i.e wives of the Prophet (sws).
For comments of Ghamidi Sahab, please refer to the following video from 3:20 to 4:56
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Umer
Moderator November 20, 2021 at 3:43 am
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Faizan
Member November 20, 2021 at 9:56 pm@UmerQureshi bahi
I concluded the following from above video:
Only wives of prophet (PBUH) were ah-lai-baith
Only those Sahaba present at baith-usman were declared Khair-e-ummat
Please correct me if missed something
Thank you.
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Umer
Moderator November 21, 2021 at 4:20 amYour understanding is correct Faizan Sahab.
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Faizan
Member November 21, 2021 at 3:51 pmTwo follow up questions @UmerQureshi bahi
In the last episode, Hassan bahi did bring up narration that extended the definition of Al-Baith. So what do we do here? Reject the narration as it doesn’t align with Quran or accept it as it’s the prophet’s (PBUH) words
What do we call those Sahabas that weren’t present at baith-usman? My confusion stems from the fact what was the criteria that Muhadassien used to label a Muslim a sahbi?
Thank you.
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Umer
Moderator November 24, 2021 at 5:30 pmRegarding your first part, since Quran has explicitly mentioned who actual ‘Ahl-e-Bait’ are, therefore, there is no question left to be asked in deciding this point. However, as far as other members of Prophet’s family like Hazrat Ali (rta), Hazrat Fatima (rta) are concerned (as mentioned in Hadith-e-Kisa), they can be considered as ‘Ahl-e-Bait’ too, but only as a secondary category because Quran has clarified the primary category of ‘Ahl-e-Bait’, therefore, other people can only be included subservient to the primary ‘Ahl-e-Bait’–as a second tier category if you will. There’s no need to reject this narration, we just need to keep the hierarchy straight. Ghamidi Sahab has also commented on this narration briefly, please refer to the video posted below.
As far as definition of a Sahabi is concerned, there are other verses too which indicate that people other than Ashab-e-Shajra are also a part of ‘Khair-e-Ummat’. For example, Surah Tauba, Verse 100:
وَالسَّابِقُوْنَ الْأَوَّلُوْنَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِيْنَ وَالْأَنصَارِ وَالَّذِيْنَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَّضِيَ اللّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوْا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِیْ تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِيْنَ فِيهَآ أَبَدًا ذَلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيْمُ.
God was pleased with those muhajirun and ansar and they were pleased with God who took the initiative the foremost, and with those also who have befittingly followed them. God has prepared for them orchards below which streams flow. They will abide in them forever. This is great success. (Quran 9:100)
And the following verse of Quran (56:8-26) as well:
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Please also refer to the following response by Ghamidi Sahab regarding definition of a Sahabi:
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Ghamidi Sahab has also briefly commented on Hadith-e-Kisa (Narration of the cloak) and other ahadith mentioning Ahl-e-Bait. Please refer to the video below from 1:27 to 9:30
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Faizan
Member November 24, 2021 at 6:17 pmThank you @UmerQureshi
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Saiyed juned Alimiya
Member August 6, 2022 at 4:48 amYe wale lecture ki unwan se u tube par according to Hasan bhai 20 part plz send the unwan
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Umer
Moderator August 8, 2022 at 12:11 am
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Umer
Moderator August 7, 2024 at 11:39 pm
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